|Paul's Brakes||HENRY K|
Jan 12, 2003 5:33 AM
|I have been unsatisfied with brakes since I bought my cross bike. I guess I got used to the crispness of road brakes. I have tried everything including V-brakes with a travel agent. I just purchased a pair of Paul's Touring Brakes just to try them. Very good quality. Easy to set up. I am now thinking about ordering the Neo-Retros for the front. Any comments?|
|re: Paul's Brakes||Dan Cas|
Jan 12, 2003 7:30 AM
|I started with Neo's front and rear and switched the rear to a touring canti.The Neo's have slightly more power but the touring is better in the rear because of the clearance.
They are superb brakes but I am simply must try discs.
|About to switch||peter in NVA|
Jan 12, 2003 10:29 AM
|I am about to try Neo-retro on front and touring on back after using the Avids for the the last three years (not bad but never could stand the squealing). Did you try Avids and if you did, how do they compare with the Pauls? I'm getting the Koolstop dual compound pads. My LBS is asking $105 each, which is about 2.5 time the Avids!|
|About to switch||HENRY K|
Jan 12, 2003 3:02 PM
|I have not ridden enough at all to compare. I just put them on and it's kind of cold in Chi., but I could never stop the squealing on the Avids for long either. I was impressed with the set-up time and quality on the Pauls. I paid $84 direct through Paul, so $105 seems a bit steep. They came with Kool-Stops.
And yes...I too would like to go disc on the cross/road bike!
|Me Too||peter in NVA|
Jan 12, 2003 5:00 PM
|Thanks for the info. The price is a conflict for me since I want to support my LBS, and they have done a lot of "free" stuff for me - so I'll probably buy from them.
I am shopping for a custom cross, and will absolutely have Avid Mechanical discs.
|Check out AEBike...||1x1 Speed Craig|
Jan 13, 2003 5:44 PM
|I just ordered my Paul brakes for $69 per wheel (Neo-Retros front/Touring Cantis rear) from www.aebike.com. They're a great shop located in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
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|re: Paul's Brakes||laffeaux|
Jan 12, 2003 10:05 PM
|I have the Neo-Retros on the front and rear. They work great unless the rim is wet, but that's true of all rim brakes. Definitely get the Touring brake for the rear. I don't have large calves, yet I bump them on the rear brake arms regularly.
If anybody wants to trade a set of Neos for Touring let me know.
|re: Paul's Brakes||atpjunkie|
Jan 13, 2003 12:54 PM
|Have vintage Paul CNC's on one of my cross bike. work great. switched other bike from Avid Squealers to Spookys. Cheaper than Pauls and they work wonderfully. Totally happy and cheaper than Paul Neo Retros (work the same) Both based on old mafac Canti|
|re: Paul's Brakes||kilimanjaro|
Jan 14, 2003 4:22 PM
|Where can you get Spookys? I tried to look for them online but the closest site I found is the spooky MTB manufacturer.
|Where to find Spookies||hummu|
Jan 14, 2003 5:32 PM
|Try or more exactly . $109.99 per set, or $179.99 for the carbon version. You could also check out as they are distributing Spooky products. And, they're Canadian.|
|Where to find Spookies||atpjunkie|
Jan 14, 2003 5:51 PM
|also picycles in San Diego has them. I also know a guy who had (possibly still has) a new set of silvers he may be selling. I'll post availability when I get in touch with him. I can get you in touch if you are interested|
|Where to find Spookies||atpjunkie|
Jan 14, 2003 6:03 PM
|yeah 1 set available. Much cheaper than 109.00. Reliable guy (bought a set myself and bar ends) post if interested and I can get you in touch|
|Re: one set available||kilimanjaro|
Jan 16, 2003 12:43 PM
I was not looking to buy right now, still saving up for the new frame. I was just curious where one can get them
|one set available||atpjunkie|
Jan 16, 2003 1:21 PM
|cool maybe I'll buy myself. no pads $55 for the pair.|
|re: Paul's Brakes||1x1 Speed Craig|
Jan 13, 2003 5:38 PM
|Same setup I went with (Neo-Retro front/Touring Canti rear) for my new Steelman Eurocross 525 SS. Can't speak to the performance...the frame isn't due to be finished until the end of January.
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|Paul's Brakes Rock!!!||TB|
Jan 20, 2003 6:28 PM
|The Pauls Neo-Retro is the best canti brake on the market today. The post above saying that the pauls are the same as Spooky's and old Mafac cantis is totally wrong!! The Spookys like the old Mafac have no ability to adjust the toe-in of the brake pads aside from bending the posts on the pads. Crude at best. The Pauls brakes, while looking like old Mafacs, use modern V-Brake pads with the sperical washers. This allow for easy set up of brake toe-in. Just like setting up v-brakes. The Pauls also utilize a unique method of adjusting spring tension. Rather than the spring going into the small hole on the brake boss, the Pauls brakes spring is all internal to the brake. Adjust the spring pressure with a 15mm spanner, and tighten it down with a 5mm allen bolt. Very easy to setup. The stopping power of the Neo-Retros is really great!! Almost as strong as v-brakes. I have tried a bunch of different cantis over the years(XTR, LX, SRP Grumpys, Spookys) and none of them come even close to the Pauls.
I have Pauls Neo-Retros on my SS CX bike (Steelman of course) and my son's CX bike (Steelman again). My geared Steelman Eurocross has the Touring brake in back. It has a little less stopping power, but as many have mentioned above, I don't bang into it nearly as much as I do the neo-retros. I did put a pair of the carbon Spookys on my race bike (not a Steelman)because they were so damn light. In racing I don't seem to get on the binders all that much (to brake is to admit defeat right?) so I didn't miss the loss of performance that much.