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Weather for Nationalsflyweight
Dec 13, 2002 1:22 PM
For those coming into town for the Nats this weekend be prepared for some extremely wet weather. A storm rolled in last night and it is absolutely pouring. I live across the street from Golden Gate Park in San Francisco and by 7:00am there was a lot of flooding in the park and a few spots where the water was up to my hubs! The rain hasn't stopped all day and will likely continue all weekend. You might want to forget about the bike and consider bringing a kayak! The one good thing is that despite the rain it's not that cold out. I'm 10 blocks from the ocean and the thermometer on my porch is reading 63 degrees. Temp in Napa is about 10 degrees cooler. In a nutshell, it's PERFECT weather for cyclocross!!!!
Prepping the Mud BikeJakob
Dec 13, 2002 1:59 PM
Now that the predicted storm has rolled in to batter Nor Cal for the weekend I was thinking about modifying my race bike for this weekend.

I have two bikes but will probably only bring one bike and an extra wheelset.

With the mud being such a huge factor this weekend, I was thinking about switching some parts around to get the best mud performance. I was thinking of going with a 1x8 speed set up with only a rear barcon.

Whaddya think? Is it worth it?

Also, what tires are you guys going to run?

Ah, I can't wait! I hope it's pouring for the B's!
Prepping the Mud Bikeflyweight
Dec 13, 2002 2:26 PM
I'm racing the B's as well and can't decide between my single speed or my Colnago (1x9 setup) Only thing that has me leaning towards the Colnago are the gradual climbs and the fact that the Colnago has TUFO tubulars while the single speed has clinchers (Panaracer Crossblaster rear/Michelin Mud front) I'll bring both bikes just and decide once I get there.

The grassy sections are probably an ankle deep quagmire by now and will get worse after Saturday's racing. The gravel roads will probably still be pretty firm but I'm sure the gravel will be slippery and I'm worried about flats from the sharper rocks.
flyweight- Did you race Redline Cup? NMJakob
Dec 13, 2002 2:31 PM
flyweight- Did you race Redline Cup? NMflyweight
Dec 14, 2002 8:31 AM
Yep. Finished 34th in the B's which doesn't sound too great untill you consider that I was on a singlespeed which means I beat 14 guys who had gears! Plus I threw my chain on the last lap, DOH!
Prepping the Mud Bikeatpjunkie
Dec 13, 2002 2:30 PM
bring both bikes. 1 is foolish. if you can set both to 1x8 if not do 1 and keep other as is.. Bring a friend to wash and demud bikes by the lap. don't wait til mud is heavy. bikes will weigh 30 lbs in 2 laps. coat bottom of downtube with PAM. vineyard mud is soft and sticky either try to cut through with skinny tire or "float with wide" brakes, stays and fork will clog making wheel roatation a struggle. Seriously find a friend to crew for ya and bring the 2. It could mean the diff between a DNF and a possible podium. it's predicted for 5 inches this weekend, careful what ya wish for.
Vineyard Mud MY Creds FWIWatpjunkie
Dec 13, 2002 3:06 PM
just in case ya'll are wondering. I was born and raised in Sonoma, Spent my childhood playing in the stuff and planted and maintained Pinot and Chardonnay Vineyards (for Champagne) in the 80's. if it's been turned over it will be soft. Good Luck to All.
How's it taste?TWD
Dec 13, 2002 4:28 PM
The mud that is!!!!

Sounds like you know your mud.

I learned more about dirt as a kid building and rebuilding the bmx track in our back yard, than I ever did in any of the civil engineering classes I took in school. That and hitting a nice set of doubles is more fun than hitting the books.

Oh well, gotta pay for bike parts somehow.
How's it taste?atpjunkie
Dec 16, 2002 11:56 AM
nutty and a tad sweet actually. super dark and rich (in Sonoma) Carneros in Napa is a little sandier as it's closer to the river. Having grown up in those vineyards why yes this mud I know. It is true what you learn as a kid. Trial and error is one of the best teachers
Different than last week.www-mtnpedaler-com
Dec 13, 2002 5:36 PM
Here's Jakob getting the hole shot last week at Granite Bay. Good luck Jake, you'll do well. Paul
re: Weather for Nationalsjjohnson05
Dec 13, 2002 4:49 PM
By the end of this afternoon's practice session the mud was hub deep in spots and the transitions from dirt to pavement were so abrupt that they were pitching riders over their bars, flatting tires and breaking rims. It seems that the course will only get worse as it is ridden into a muddy soup. The rain is supposed to be heavier tomorrow than it was today. It may be best to just shoulder your bike and plan on running for an hour.

Too bad there isn't time for a plan B.

Jon Page has seen this type of racing several times this year in Belgium and Holland.