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It's alive!OffRoadTourer
Sep 19, 2002 7:44 AM
but what is it? care to share..(nm)marcmarc
Sep 19, 2002 8:42 AM
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but what is it? care to share..(nm)OffRoadTourer
Sep 20, 2002 12:38 AM
I set out to build a bike that could be ridden on road, dirt or toured with no changes whatsoever (barring panniers and rack). Heres what I came up with:

-7005 alloy frame with braze-ons everywhere
-Campagnolo Atlanta rims on DuraAce hubs with IRC E-Cross 35c tires
-Manitou Luxe, 3" travel, 700c suspension fork
-Cane Creek Thudbuster suspension seat post and SDG BelAir saddle
-Salsa Bell Lap cyclocross bars, Zoom 100mm stem, Cane Creek threadless 1.125" headset
-Paul Cross levers and Sora STI pulling Avid SD3 V-brakes through QBP Travel Agents
-SRAM 11-32 cassette, 30/42/52 road triple 175mm cranks, Sachs chain, old-school XT bottom bracket
-105 long cage rear derailler and old-school XTR front derailler
-SPD 515 double sided clipless pedals

It weighs about 1lb more than a Surly CrossCheck but gives a magic carpet ride thanks to suspension front and rear. Almost as fast as a roadie and way faster than a MTB on singletrack climbs and flats (and surprisingly not too much slower on the descents). Relaxed angles make it stable and rack mounts means I can take it touring. It only took me 6 months and about a grand in US dollars, but I am one happy camper. Anyone want to buy my MTB?
rad bike.Jakob
Sep 20, 2002 8:54 AM
it makes me want to put v-brakes and a 29er marzocchi marathon on my cross check. who built the frame?
rad bike.OffRoadTourer
Sep 20, 2002 8:03 PM
Yeah, do it!
The frame was made in Taiwan by a team of robots and underpaid workers who produce millions of units a year. Yes, it's generic like so much else these days. It's actually a Peak X-City frame (an Australian brand of hybrid) but all the geometry was right, it was suspension corrected, had gussets at the head tube, brake bosses, rack eyelets and fit me like a glove. I was initially just using it to experiment with geometry before I got a custom frame built, but now I'm thinking I'll just stay with this as it's perfect. Just hope it doesn't crack too soon.
You can see in this photo all the black tape I put over the hideous orange and red graphics, still thinking about a paint job, if I bother. I initially ran the bars fairly low (as in this photo) but have since moved some spacers under the stem to lift it up and it's way more comfortable. I've learnt not to cut off steerer tubes until you've had time to experiment with different positions...
Man that is UGLY!B123
Sep 22, 2002 3:18 PM
Hope it was cheap!
Can you read?OffRoadTourer
Sep 23, 2002 12:44 AM
I already said how much it cost. I hope one day you can appreciate function as well as form. Feel free to post a picture of your bike for my assessment and constructive comment.
Ha HaB123
Sep 25, 2002 4:57 PM
Funny, you paid $1000 for that, what a rip.

But if it replaces two bikes of $1000 each then I'd say you got a deal.

I won't post a picture of my $1000 cross bike, it'd make you jealous.
I'm sorry, for you..OffRoadTourer
Sep 27, 2002 6:53 AM
I didnt pay $1000 for it, it cost me $1000 to build it up from scratch, using a generic frame to experiment with geometry. It's effectively a prototype so it's bound to be lacking in aesthetics.

You obviously get turned on by decals and color schemes. I prefer things like DuraAce hubs, XTR deraillers, Paul levers, Salsa cross bars, Campagnolo rims, etc etc.. Sorry if you find these things ugly, but the cost of quality parts like these adds up, to about $1000 actually. Or maybe the concept of suspension is just too much for your stuck-in-the-mud approach to life?

Dont bother to post a pic of your generic, off the shelf, specced by a bike company exec, totally unimaginative, production cross bike, I'd just yawn. I'm happy tinkering in my shed and experimenting with different ideas. You stay on the shop floor in your neato conservative comfort zone where someone else can do the thinking for you.

Just keep your narrow minded approach out of my posts in future and I'll be sure to leave you to yours. Hope you play better in the playground than you do here in the safe anonymity of the web, you might just make some friends.
I'm sorry, for you..shawniemc
Sep 27, 2002 8:11 AM
I think B123 is a guy like me who couldn't build his own bike and he's jealous (like me!). I like it! Sounds like you're into some pretty tough riding and this is the bike for it.
Oh PleaseB123
Sep 27, 2002 10:15 AM
I haven't built a bike....oh please. I build them all the time, not just putting the parts on but that little thing we call brazing.

In fact, I don't ride off the shelf bikes with fancy decals, each one is hand built by a local builder or myself. Yes I use standard parts, they are easy to maintain and replace. I put a lot of miles on my bikes and I've learned that it's a lot easier to fix a tried and true part. Me on my plain steel bike, good ol' steel fork, with cheap 105/ultegra, locally cnc'd paul levers, strong and true 36 spoke 3 cross wheels laced with my own hands.
Enough, enough.OffRoadTourer
Sep 27, 2002 6:44 PM
Well I'm over this discussion. I dont disagree with anything you've said. I apologise for my little outburst. I'm off for a ride. Man I love the ergo bulge in those flared Salsa bars...
fork feedback?Steve_O
Sep 23, 2002 8:02 AM
Just curious on how the Manitou Luxe was working out?

We have them on several hybrids at the shop I wrench at. Several weeks ago I had a customer bring in a bike with the Luxe on it for a tune up. He was a big guy and asked if I could stiffen up the fork. While tightening the plastic preload knob I managed to strip the threads so the knob spins freely...(end result being replacement knob on order with Manitou)...

Any issues with your fork?
fork feedback?OffRoadTourer
Sep 23, 2002 4:33 PM
I weigh 185lb and had to upgrade to the Manitou Luxe "firm ride kit" (basically a stiffer spring and elastomer combo). I still run them with tons of preload, so yes thay can be a little soft for heavy people. They are clearly not a set of dirtjumping or downhill forks, but if you can resist the urge to catch big air they definitely add a lot to the comfort, traction and handling of your bike. My preload knob has a definite stop when you reach its limit, you must have incredible hand strength or just be a bike butcher ;)