|It will be here soon.||peloton fodder|
Sep 17, 2002 6:48 AM
|My new cross frame and fork will be here soon and I must admit I'm pretty excited. The question is whether or not I should put the mish mash of parts that I have on my current bike on the new frame or upgrade everything and have a spare bike handy? If you had a spare bike how often would you use it?
I think this year's model will not have the red in it.
|sorry, here's the pic.....I hope||peloton fodder|
Sep 17, 2002 6:58 AM
I couldn't post the bike pic and I don't know why. Hey here' a chupa cabra!
|spare cross bike?||climbo|
Sep 17, 2002 7:58 AM
|I'd use it it cross races but that's about it. You could make a commuter bike or a single speed out of it, whatever you want.
PS. Nice looking frame you've got coming.
|New bike||Eager Beagle|
Sep 17, 2002 8:45 AM
|You can't waste a frame like that with a mish-mash :-)|
|Come on man don't start.||peloton fodder|
Sep 17, 2002 11:32 AM
|As soon as I start taking heat for not having Record on there I'm going to have to get Record and I can't afford it on this bike.|
|Amicable compromise||Eager Beagle|
Sep 18, 2002 12:41 AM
|I would go Daytona (Centuar this week) - it's my favourite gruppo - outstanding value - see the reviews on campyonly - for the money that'll give you a spanking ride...|
|no, Record is just silly||lonefrontranger|
Sep 18, 2002 8:02 AM
|this from someone who races crits on Record equipped bikes and finds the ejector seat about once per season, but anyhow. (FWIW I find that Record carbon levers don't show scuffs near as bad as metal, and clear nail polish works wonders :))
Record is serious overkill on a a 'cross bike, and most likely overkill in most situations... I do agree that the Fondriest frame deserves a lot better than your usual Frankenbike 'cross build.
Eager Beagle is right. Get Centaur. It's the equivalent of Ultegra, and the shifting will be more dependable in the goo. I put it on my Dream Cross and it works just peachy. Go Centaur 9 and you'll even be able to use Shimano wheels.
|no, Record is just silly||atpjunkie|
Sep 18, 2002 11:48 AM
|she's right (as usual). cxers aren't the gear weenies that roadies are and no one is going to look down on your "less than Record" Gruppo, especially in the mud. So you aren't going to impress anybody (they may think you frivolous, vain or silly), Centaur 9 will do ya fine. I know the pros use record...why? They are PRO's, which means free gear and free repairs.
I just hope LFR doesn't look down upon my Ridley Frankenbike when I post the pix.
|are you kidding, Frankenbikes are the heart and soul of 'cross||lonefrontranger|
Sep 18, 2002 3:20 PM
|My old Redline was a shining example of "build it out of whatever was in the parts bin that day". It had STX cantis on rear and XT on the front, the rear wheel was the original 105 POS from my '92 Giant Cadex, the front wheel was laced to an early '80s Dura Ace hub, the bars were old Cinelli crit bends salvaged off a Masi an ex-boyfriend rode into the side of a bus, and the rear mechs varied from Acera to DA depending on how often the return springs were breaking that week. It had a '98 Record front mech on it someone gave to me NIB. My favorite was the shaggy old black Coda MTB triple (come to think of it "varmit" donated that crank!) that I left the granny on, but only used the outer 2 rings for the most part *unless* I got really desperate. I developed the fine art of holding the left STI all the way in and kicking the crank until it "dropped" the chain onto the granny, where it would stay (sounding like hell) until I didn't need it anymore.
All that being said, it's all good to do this with say.. a Surly or cheapo Redline frame but I'd have been kinda embarrassed for that grouppo on the Dream or Fondriest.
|are you kidding, Frankenbikes are the heart and soul of 'cross||atpjunkie|
Sep 18, 2002 8:05 PM
|well I have a 2000 Ridley Cross (before the 'bow and 'wind) pretty swank euro cx frame and it will be my "race" bike from the scrap heap. Ultegra Hubs (I know shoulda gone Campy but I have lots of old Shimano Stuff) on Aerohead wheels. Old Paul CNC MTB canti's with Ultegra Aero and Spooky(Tektro) bar top levers. Race Face Post, 3T Forgie stem (was a spare from my ex's roadie), Syncros headset and Syncros 46 ergo bars, now here's where it gets fun
most likely 1997 XT 8 sp rear der. (best derailleur IMHO Shimano ever built) feeding 12-30 XT 8 sp cassette controlled by D/A Bar Con. Crank is 175 AC forged MTB with XTR or DA BB depending on how I set the crank. Most likely 42 tooth Salsa Ring w 48T salsa chainguard and third eye chain watcher. I'm a big boy and am not a big fan of Shimano 9 or Campy 10 as you have no idea what 230 lbs of hammering torque can do to a chain. Anyway I'll post a pic when she's done. Best part is bike will have cost me less than $800 as most was bought at bike swaps, ebay etc..... I tend to like MTB parts on my cx bikes as I'm hard on my toys
|If Centaur is Ultegra...||Drupa|
Sep 20, 2002 4:51 PM
|What is Chorus? Just curious.|
|If Centaur is Ultegra...||lonefrontranger|
Sep 20, 2002 6:06 PM
|Chorus is equivalent to DuraAce and Record is basically expensive cosmetics for no performance gain and only a minor drop in weight. It does look cool but if I had to pay full price for my stuff there's no way I'd put Record on my bikes.|
Sep 22, 2002 5:00 AM
|Also comes with almost anal-retentive quality assurance. QA on most components groups [Shimano and Campy] is doen on a sample basis; QA on Record is done on a part-by-part basis. Every Record component is checked.|
Sep 24, 2002 7:46 PM
|IMHO and from everything I've test rode
Centaur (Daytona) is better than 105
Ultegra is better than Centaur (Daytona)
Chorus is better than Ultegra
Dura Ace seemed slightly smoother than Chorus (maybe a bad set up) but were basically equivalent
Record was just the super swank. I'd never use on a cx bike but will build my next roadie a Record Chorus mix.