|Redline vs Jake the Snake||DavidK|
Aug 8, 2002 10:27 AM
|My favorite local shop carries Kona and Jamis and can order a Redline. I am very interested in the Redline Conquest for $900.00. Does anyone have any comments on how it compares to a Jake or Nova? What about sizing (the Jake and Nova seem big for their listed size) and handling? Also, I am still eyeing a Spicer frameset as well. Thanks to all. David krahulik|
|re: Redline vs Jake the Snake||atpjunkie|
Aug 8, 2002 12:36 PM
|depends on what ya plan on doing. Redline is a nice bike as is the Jake, personally I dig the orange Jamis. Steel provides a very compliant ride compared to aluminum and will soften up the bumps and Jamis builds good frames with good pipes. The nova also has braze ons if ya want to tour or commute, the other rides are more Spartan, race ready.
can't really go wrong with any of those choices.
|re: Redline vs Jake the Snake||The Walrus|
Aug 8, 2002 12:51 PM
|The Conquest is a good, meat-and-potatoes sort of bike, but it felt a little rougher to me than the Jake. The Jake also seemed to have a wee bit more standover. The one thing I liked more about the Redline was the fork; the Project 2 on the Jake was harsher than the Conquest's fork. I'd give Jake the nod on handling, too, although it's close.|
|re: Redline vs Jake the Snake||Velocipedio|
Aug 8, 2002 6:04 PM
|I love the Jake -- or at least what I did to mine -- but it has some unfortunate shortcomings. I don't know how these stack up to the Redline, but these are things to look for...
1. Bottom-bracket cable routing. This is gunk waiting to happen. I think I can live with it, but we'll see.
2. The derailleur cable stops on the bottom of the downtube are those split stops that you see on MTBs. Not a problem, except that they don't take barrel adjusters very easily. You CAN retrofit, but it isn't easy, and the jake doesn't come with barrel adjusters right out of the box.
3. The fork. It is harsh and heavy.
On the other hand, the 2003 Jake's painjob is extremely rude -- sort of barf to snot green fade. I like it... but then I like ugly.
|Adjuster solution||The Walrus|
Aug 10, 2002 2:14 PM
|There is another way to deal with the lack of adjusters. A shop rat at the LBS put these things right on the old 105 STI levers on my Wazoo; I never could get him to tell where they actually came from.
Of course, now that I remember you're a Campy guy, I guess this is moot...
|I could just see myself...||Velocipedio|
Aug 11, 2002 3:09 AM
|... groping a bulge under the bar tape, trying to adjust the cable tension. :)|
Aug 12, 2002 3:39 AM
|You could also use Inline barrel adjusters from Jagwire. Place them close to the levers for ease. Can be adjusted with full finger gloves on. Run $8-10 per pair. Also great for brakes( makes it easy to loosen cable to remove the wheels).|
|2 birds one stone||Eager Beagle|
Aug 12, 2002 7:20 AM
|Put some bar-top levers on, and put the adjusters in the cable there?|| |