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brake upgrade question...memphistrials
Aug 6, 2002 3:22 PM
Hi all...

I've decided to keep using canti's on my CrossCheck (was considering V's), and now I'm looking into upgrading the brakes.

Cambria has Shimano LX canti's for $9.00 a pair, and Avid Shorty 4's for about $20 a pair.
Would either of these be a noticeable improvement over the Tektro canti's that came on the bike? I'll admit the vanity issue... Black brakes would look cool. =) But if there's no real performance upgrade, I guess it's not worth spending the money.

I don't forsee ever needing another pair of canti's, so it's not like I'd use them down the road in building another bike or anything... Unless what I have now craps out on me.

Anyway, I'm just throwing ideas around. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

- Chip
Peddler Bike Shop - Memphis, TN
I wouldn't bother with the LX CantisJakob
Aug 6, 2002 3:36 PM
I have had both the LX and XT cantis on my Cross Check with Ritchey pads (red and then black). Neither has worked particularly well. I have a pair of XT cantis on my stiff aluminum Redline and they work just fine. My experience with the Surly has been that I am stuck with mushy brakes because of the frame flex. I don't think the LX cantis on that frame could possibly work that much better than the Tektros, primarily because the LXs don't work very well.

Maybe the Avids would work better, I'm not sure, but I think the frame flex is still the main problem with braking effectiveness on the Surly. I thought about getting brake boosters but, like you, I had a vanity issue. . .Good luck!
I wouldn't bother with the LX Cantisatpjunkie
Aug 6, 2002 3:50 PM
avids will improve braking but front tends to squel unless you toe in like a mutha. I'd avoid theLX's. I'd breakdown and spend the 80 bones on the Froggleggs
Canti brakes :(HENRY K
Aug 6, 2002 7:47 PM
Forget all of the cantis. I'm waiting for the discs to be perfected to work with road levers!
Aug 7, 2002 3:22 PM
That's been done hasn't it?


Aug 7, 2002 4:41 PM
I spoke with an AVID representative direct and he told me that Avid had a disc set-up for road bike/road levers (Shimano) but that they were not 100% pleased with the performance yet. They were going to try out the brakes with Campys. That's all I know as of about 3 weeks ago. If anyone knows of more of an update to that I would be interested.
Aug 9, 2002 4:22 AM
A coworker has put the Avid road disc on his Surly(front) with a Dimension cross disc fork (cheap cromo fork but does ride nice). It took quite a bit longer to set up and break in than the MTB version. It also has a softer feel, but has plenty of stopping power to spare( he is about 240lbs) but still will not flip you over the front. Nor does the fork shutter at all. Plus it really looks Coooool! I will try to get a pic of it soon to post.
Yes. Please do post pics. Been thinkin' of doin this too. [nm]Ahimsa
Aug 9, 2002 5:20 PM
Surly with front discBAM
Aug 12, 2002 7:15 PM
Here is a pic of a Avid road disc on a dimension cross fork (disc only)
Surly with front disc pic2BAM
Aug 12, 2002 7:21 PM
Schwing!!!! Thanks! [nm]Ahimsa
Aug 13, 2002 6:04 PM
I kinda think boosters look sorta cool on a Surly...Pauli
Aug 8, 2002 6:43 AM
unless you're going for that sleek Euro-Surly look. Doesn't Salsa make a yellow booster? That sounds like a sexy match fof a Bean-Green Surly!
I kinda think boosters look sorta cool on a Surly...atpjunkie
Aug 8, 2002 1:18 PM
no get the red booster for that I'm really ghetto and don't give a frick look. Ugly can be good too!
Word! (nm)Pauli
Aug 9, 2002 6:55 AM
re: brake upgrade question...jrm
Aug 7, 2002 6:52 PM
im using the tektro mini V's (BMX)on my cross check with 105 STi levers and OE pads. The power is good on dirt and the street. And they dont fade as bad canti's. They're cheap and they work. Oh and theyre blacl too. Definite coolness factor for a good brake @ a resonable cost.
re: brake upgrade question...memphistrials
Aug 7, 2002 9:08 PM
How is the mud clearance on those? Are they mushy feeling? And does the frame / fork flex much under hard braking?

Wouldn't happen to have a picture, would ya? :)
re: brake upgrade question...The Walrus
Aug 7, 2002 8:22 PM
I replaced the V-brake/Travel Agent setup on my '99 Wazoo with XT cantis equipped with Aztec pads, and they work beautifully. I've never made an objective comparison between them and the Avids on my Axis, but they feel every bit as good. Just took a lot of fiddling with the straddle wire to get it right...
Best brake upgrade is V'sAlex-in-Evanston
Aug 12, 2002 11:53 AM
Unless we're talking discs, the best brake upgrade is switching to V's. Travel agents work perfectly - I really don't know why more folks aren't running V's with STI.

I also use V's on my singlespeed with Dia-Compe 287 long pull levers.