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beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...(9 posts)

beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...dustin73
Apr 7, 2002 10:13 AM
i'm thinking of how to build up a SS CX bike mainly for commuting through Austin. i've got 2 frames to work with: a 99 Stumpjumper and a 99 Allez. now, i don't know if there are any out there, but could i get away with possibly finding some road tires that have real tread on them, or would it be possible to squeeze some cross tires on the road frame? i'd like to avoid the Stumpy due to it's Manitou fork (i want this to be rigid), but if neccessary... my other option would be to get an On-One Il Pompino.

ideas/ remarks/ tips?
re: beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...MJ
Apr 8, 2002 2:53 AM
if you're gonna SS the Allez - Conti Top Touring 2000 should fit the frame no problem

seems a shame to do that to an Allez and I agree about going rigid - can you stretch to a devoted SS frame?

what about (support your local SS shop?)
http://www.firemansbikes.com/shop.htm

for more SS info. and an expensive ti SS frame also look at
http://www.mattchester.com/

On-One Il Pompino looks good too
re: beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...dustin73
Apr 8, 2002 9:48 AM
yeah, i want to go with a SS specific frame, but don't know if i can come up with the cash. and i don't know if i want to sell my Stumpjumper. i mean, i might as well 'cause i ride nothing but the Inbred now, which is SS devoted. Chester? waaaaay out of the question. Fireman, yeah but i'm looking for a road-esque type frame. which is why i like the Il Pompino. and 'cause it's super cheap (realatively)...i think one guy said he built it up for under a grand, which would be great 'cause it's mainly gonna be a commuter.
re: beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...MJ
Apr 9, 2002 12:24 AM
so does that mean you'll be without an offroad bike? - when I lived in Austin I frequented the Greenbelt Trail up from Zilker Park and all the other play areas around Austin - there's some great offroad there - though I think the Greenbelt Trail is crossable

I've got a Stumpie hanging in Muncher's garage - but I'd never get rid of it - think about how much it would cost to replace it with a similar quality ride

do you already have the Inbred? - what's the difference between the two? how's your set up?

I like the Fireman - it's a tough looking ride - it'd remind me of being a kid
re: beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...dustin73
Apr 9, 2002 6:41 PM
oh no, i've got my Inbred to fulfill the mtb needs. i go to Walnut Creek just about every weekend. compared to the Stumpy, the Inbred feels more nimble, 'cause it's an inch smaller and the compact geometry, i guess. the stem on the Inbred is 100, 5* Thomson, which is a bit shorter than on the Stump. i don't know what it is on the Stump, but everything's stock. now that i thought about it, i'll probably move the cranks, brakes, and whatever else i can, over to the Il Pompino. it's gonna become my school bike, mainly.

difference between Inbred and Il Pomp? i guess pretty much just angles and fork. well, and color.

the Firemans are cool. i rode Greg's for a bit and it was pretty fun. that was going to be my first SS, actually, but i got a good deal on an 853 Inbred that was too good to pass up.
On-One Il Pompino is an excellent choice (pics)SS_MB-7
Apr 8, 2002 11:45 AM
I'm also considering the On-One Il Pompino as a SS CX bike and as a fixed-gear with a flip-flop fixed/free rear wheel. It has ample rear tire clearance for a 'cross tire, but you'll need a new front fork since it isn't wide enough to accommodate cross tires. For the money, I don't think you can go wrong. Here are some pics of the Il Pompino (not my bike) that shows the weld/paint quality:







For more detailed information, click here to view detailed CAD drawings in PDF formats.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
On-One Il Pompino is an excellent choice (pics)dustin73
Apr 8, 2002 8:55 PM
does anyone other than Phil make flip-flops? i checked his site and his were over 200$...ouch. that's more than half the frame. some of the build is going to come from the Stumpy (cranks, BB, brakes). i assume 700c rims, but what kind of hubs? i was figuring Surly since it's 135 in the rear and they're cheap, but not sure about front. LX or somethign in the mtb category be ok?
Other than Phil, there's only Surly with 135mm rear spacing...SS_MB-7
Apr 9, 2002 4:51 AM
As far as I know, other than Phil, there's only Surly with 135mm rear spacing.



There are other flip-flops like Sovos, Suzue and Miche, but these are all 110-120mm spaced. But, these may be able to be re-spaced to 135mm with longer axle, washers, etc.

Unfortunately, unlike the Phil, the Surly is a free/free flip-flop, not a fixed/free. Now, this may or may not be a problem for you. I personally wanted fixed/free so I went with the Phil. Now, you can thread a track cog onto one side of the Surly and use a BB lockring with Locktite, but Surly advises against it.

Email Brant at On-One and ask him if there are any other 135mm flip-flop hubs.

As for the front hub, LX would be fine.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
re: beating a dead horse, i know, but i've got some questions...Jakob
Apr 8, 2002 3:28 PM
i know everyone has talked about them around here before, but the surly cross check does have horizontal dropouts so that you can use it as an ss.