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Jake the Snake or Crosscheck(11 posts)

Jake the Snake or Crosscheckgotbones
Feb 16, 2002 6:13 PM
I've narrowed my search down to these 2 bikes. Both fit me well. The Jake has a little better spec (105 vs. Tiagra) and the prices are comparable. Weight isn't a big concern (I could lose a few myself.) I'm not planning on racing - I'll be doing some trails, some commuting, longer rides and possibly, light touring.

Any comments on the ride quality and suitability of one over the other?

well nowjs
Feb 16, 2002 8:38 PM
one is alu, one is steel. one has eyelets, other doesn't... one has horizontal dropouts (in case you ever want to fix/ss, other doesn't...

soma could be another choice
re: Jake the Snake or Crosscheckbadabill
Feb 17, 2002 8:19 AM
The crosscheck will fill the bill nicely. I built mine up with 105 stuff I had around and use it just as you are planning. Raced it this year, a little heavy but I'm slow so who cares. Now it has a rack on it and is set-up for a couple of Brevets I am doing. Rides nice, a handfull on fast road descents but its not made for that. It will do everything you need.
Get alu?Samu Ilonen
Feb 18, 2002 4:25 AM
My Surly,58cm was way heavy,frame 2263+1060g fork....I'm getting cheap Sun alu frame 1795g and Ritchey cromo fork 800g...way lighter.Surly rides well on touring but on race or trail I'd go with Kona.

Jus my 400$...
Jake v 'Check.muncher.
Feb 18, 2002 9:23 AM
Got a Jake. Bomb proof frame and fork, and not too heavy. I'd go for that if you are going to be off-road more than on it. A bit buzzy on the road.

Also got a steel CX (Gazelle) - more comfortable on the road due to frame and fork - soaks up the vibration more. Feels slower off the road though.

Could probably even them out with simple changes of tyres/wheels though, so consider that.

I'd look at which you want to do "better" and go from there.
Jake v 'Check.heldveld
Feb 20, 2002 8:01 PM

Where did you purchase your Gazelle? I would love to find a real (Dutch) cross bike that is not allum (Empella).
Not much help I'm afraidmuncher.
Feb 21, 2002 1:51 AM
I got mine used (like new though - all Record, cinelli bars and stem, MA3 rims (which are a bomb-proof build) in a nice metallic red with WC rings) from a London free ads paper ( - bikes are in the "motors" section!). It's a champione de monde - I don't know where it origninally came from, and would guess that it's mid-80s.

They seem to be fairly rare in the UK - the only other one I have seem is a newer straight roadie version of the same model which a guy in my club got from his brother who in turn got it somewhere in Europe. Oddly, his is a little smaller, and a real boat-anchor, even with DA, whereas mine in about a 56 is around 19lbs w/o carbon forks.

It's a very nice ride, and a great looking frame - very nice cut-out lugs.

Good luck in the search - if you put an ad in the "wanted" section of Loot, you might just get lucky - it has a vast readership. If you find what you are after, let me know if you need a hand with shipping etc.

re: Jake the Snake or CrosscheckMike the Snake
Feb 19, 2002 5:29 PM
I have a Jake and would have to agree that it is better off road than on. Too buzzy on pavement and no rack mounts. My friend has a Cross-Checkset set up for commuting, and it is a sweet bike, as long as you're not planning on actually racing it..
jake rack mounts...merckx56
Feb 20, 2002 7:55 AM
I have a 2000 JTS and does indeed have mounts for a rear rack. they aren't the welded on tab type mounts, but there are holes in the rear drops that are threaded to accept rack hardware.
i ride mine on the road all the time and don't find it buzzy at all...maybe it's just me.
either way, the jake is a much better buy than the surly.
better buy?john2
Feb 20, 2002 8:14 AM
please explain
....or half a set of rack mounts....The Walrus
Feb 20, 2002 9:26 AM
The Jake's got the dropout mounts all right, but there are no matching eyelets on the seatstays. The only way I was ever able to install a rack was by using a Blackburn Monostay adapter on the seatpost, just below the seatpost collar. It worked, but I'd like to hear about other solutions if anyone's got 'em....