|Tufo Tire information||ThommyKay|
Jan 22, 2002 8:31 PM
|After a disastorous weekend of racing, punctuated by three flats, I've decided to make the switch to tubulars for next year's race season. Tufos are holding my interest right now due to their availability and wide selection of sizes. The only thing that would keep me on clinchers would be the option of running the Tufo tubular clinchers. My questions about the tires (both tubs and clinchers), are about their real width. I am currently running Michelin Sprints and although they are listed at 30mm, they measure out closer too 33-34mm actual. Can someone please give me an accurate description of their true width in the 30, 32, and 34 widths in the tubs and the 30mm in the clinchers. I weigh 190 lbs and race on the West Coast where it can be pretty rocky and dry. Thanks|
Jan 23, 2002 1:55 AM
|are notoriously prone to punctures and flats - don't give up on clinchers just because of them!! |
having said that am in same situation and have thouight about Tufos - look forward to other responses
(no dry consitions here - just mud, mud, mud)
|Tubular Clinchers||Jan_Gerrit (NL+BE distributor)|
Jan 23, 2002 3:20 AM
|2 options : use Tufo sealent in the innertubes that may swiftly seal smaller leaks, but you WILL lose air still in most cases.
The 30mm Tufo ARE 30mm, 32mm is about 32mm and 34mm are 33+mm real, to prevent ever being over the regulated 35mm.
From August on, Tubular Clinchers will become available in 32 and 34mm also. Keep in mind that Tubular Clinchers will also save you quite some weight over most clincher+tube+rimstrip combination. Performance is really identical to 'the real thing', but actual tubs on tubular rims will remain lighter.
Jan 23, 2002 8:38 AM
|like the idea- don't like the thought of using sealant for every puncture - riding on trails with glass and mud = punctures are regular events - will be commuting on the tyre half off road/half on road - don't like the thought of not being able to 'fix the tyre' - sounds great for racing not for commuting |
Jan 23, 2002 12:47 PM
|The Sealent works not only as a patch, but also as a preventive measure. There have been numurous cases where the rider could just carry on doing his thing while the Sealent did it's work, not even a dismount necessary. You could carry a spare road tubular clincher, those will not take too much room in your bag. Take into account that tubular clinchers ARE ridable when flat. But worry about that once you get a Diamonds to flat, while using the sealent.
Up till now, I have been able to fix every puncture(punctures are very rare actually) that would have been patchable if it were an innertube. Punctures due to a bad rimtapejob are history.
Tufo's are all or nothing, the Diamonds are faster than most road tires (at least my Elite version), and the knobbies are grippy like a Michelin MUD, but then without the shovel effect, throwing all mud from underneath the tires onto your bike the way MUDs do.
Diamonds will be ridable offroad, but preferebly in the dry. Don't attempt wet and steep climbs, won't work.
But wait a minute, off road commute? Sounds cool! Jut use knobbies if commuting is in play, you don't want any too low griplevels on your way to work. But then again, if Sprints suffice, then Diamonds will as well. Oh, they act better in corners and are more comfy. Speed advantage is too obvious to discuss...
Jan 24, 2002 1:46 AM
|off road commute in central London no less!! |
it's a bit convoluted and certainly isn't direct - but it'll be a great workout on the way to, er, work
from Kentish Town up through Hampstead Heath where I'll set up an offroad 'morning course' - then up to Highgate and offroad down the Parkland Walk to Finsbury Park - then back on the road to the City and work - should be half and half road and off road - should be about 12 miles depending on the morning course in HH
the Parkland Walk off road portion will be very muddy and slippy and will have lots of urban detritus - glass etc. (ripe for punctures) - the HH morning course will have some offroad/off camber hills and also be very muddy - I will never count on riding in dry conditions here!! - so which Tufo do you think will treat me best and where's the link?
Jan 24, 2002 5:18 AM
|You definately want a knobbed one, so the options, in order of price:
C T30 Pro 30mm
C Prestige Special 30mm
C Elite CycloCross LPS 28 or 30mm
Bigger sized tubular clinches will become available next autumn.
A link to get started, one of my major dealers that I have good experiences with : http://www.bike2build.nl/artikel.php?productgroepid=006&hoofdgroepid=002&subhoofdgroepid=005&subgroepid=167
Note that the C Elite CycloCross LPS is still under it´s prototype-name there, but now part of Tufo´s new Elite line of race-performance tires.
Good luck looking and have fun on your daily commutes!
Cheers, Jan Gerrit
|Tubular Clinchers/ Tufo 26" Cross||buffalosorrow|
Jan 24, 2002 8:55 AM
Since there is sufficient demand for a 26" cyclocross tire, can riders contact email Tufo to request such product?
Whom should the email be directed to?
Might you have contact with Tufo?
I wish there was an excellent 26" 'diamond pattern' cross tire, to eliminate toe overlap and standover related concerns for smaller riders.
|Toe overlap problems with 26"???||Jan_Gerrit|
Jan 24, 2002 11:15 AM
|That's a new for me...
Oh, I tried to convince Tufo to make some 26" version, promised to buy a lot of them, but they weren't really impressed.
Also, the rim would have to be a maximum of 20mm wide for work with the tubular clincher concept, hard to find such a narrow rim in 26". More chance to find a working 650c, which is somewhat bigger.
Send Tufo emails, or your local distributor. www.tufonorthamerica.com is one of the biggest and most influential I guess. If they'd agree with you, they would be able to place a big enough order for Tufo to be convinced.
And I agree, a 34mm 26" Cross tubular clincher would really ROCK. Diamond for training/cummuting/clean courses and knobbies for the real deal. 650c would be my way to go. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 26" rim brakes still work with 650c wheels in most cases, right? The extra bit of circumference is only good.
Option : brake adapters or Paul brakes to allow use of 700c wheels in your mtb. Maes the BB high, but I did it for one year with reasonable success.
|re: Tufo Tire information||mackgoo|
Jan 23, 2002 4:41 AM
|Right now I have a pair of the 28mm diamond tread tubs, they are a hair under 29mm. I'll have a pair of the Prestige nobies soon I'll update then.|
|re: Tufo Tire information||mackgoo|
Feb 6, 2002 7:23 AM
|Just wanted to give an update on the Tufo diamond tread. They are good on the road and work great on dirt roads and 1-2 inches of sand. Ok on pine needles. I've been taking a trail where it's obvious kids hang around because there's glass every where, any way I haven't been concerned with the glass and haven't punctured so I would give them a 10 on puncture resistance.|| |