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What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?(25 posts)

What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?buffalosorrow
Dec 22, 2001 8:53 PM
Right now I have a pair of SRP Mr. Grumpy cantis on my cross get-up. I am looking for a second pair for my single speed cross. Are there any recomendations, granted all work well if properly dialed in.
The manager a store, says he runs the Paul Neo Retro (yet costly $150 pair). What about Onza or other SRP models?
re: Do they have to be Canti's?jrm
Dec 23, 2001 7:46 AM
If not look into the Tektro Mini V BMX brakes. About $20 each american.
re: Do they have to be Canti's?buffalosorrow
Dec 23, 2001 9:39 AM
I have a V-brake on the front, it is way too squishy even with the v- adapter, I am running chorus ergo. Reason for this is the shop I no longer go to installed a threaded king headset with out mentioning the loss of canti capibility, the sold me a tektro V brake, it works fine, but there is such a modulation difference between the two, it nearly drives me crazy. I am looking for litespeed drilled quill stem.
other optionsdamon
Dec 23, 2001 4:54 PM
I am hoping there is an obvious answer to these questions, but here goes anyway:

-why did switching to a king headset preclude the use of a standard headset mounted cable hanger?
-have you looked into stem-quill style hangers?
-what about the cannondale style fork crown bolt on (called "____ pipe") hanger?
-finally (and yucky solution), what about an older style MTB stem that has the cable stop integral with the stem?

Also, it sounds like you have regular Vs, not the mini Vs....

-Damon
other optionsbuffalosorrow
Dec 23, 2001 11:04 PM
- the kind h/s locknut threads into the headset its self. (I am unsure wether I am expailing this correctly.) The cable hanger fits on most headset except king thread.
- I have asked around for a stem- quill hangers, but to no avail.

- I am not familiar with the Cann hanger.

- I am running reg V's not mini V's. perhaps.

Thanks for you advice!
It seems I have more options than I first encountered.
confused on king...damon
Dec 24, 2001 2:25 AM
hey buffalosorrow, i am still a little confused on the king headset. I have a king greaseguard HS on my cross bike and have a ritchey cable hanger on it. It is a "typical" 2-piece cone and top lock nut configuration... i could be missing something completely about your setup, though.
Also, I think i have a clamp-on steerer tube hanger that can easily be "made to work" simply by adding a thin shim underneath (tool box not readily accessible to me at the moment). If you are not in any rush, i could probably mail that off to you when i get back from vacation (which is happening now :-)
Finally, see if you can look in a QBP (quality bicycle products) catalogue that pretty much every bike shop will have. I am sure there will be about 10 solutions to your problem that you can order up.

This is an easy fix problem that should be a cheap non-issue.

-Damon
you are....Jack S
Dec 24, 2001 12:08 PM
missing something, that is. There are 2 models of CKing threaded headsets. The gripnut model cannot be used with spacers or cable hangers, whereas the 2 nut model can.
thanks, and another Qdamon
Dec 24, 2001 1:29 PM
I did not know there was a grip nut model out there.

Now my follow up question is: Since you can switch from a threaded to a threadless simply by switching the top bits, can you switch from a gripnut to standard?
If so, that should be a relatively inexpensive modification... possibly even free if the bike shop is good.

-d
seems that I have the Grip Nut King H/S.....buffalosorrow
Dec 24, 2001 8:02 PM
confused on king...buffalosorrow
Dec 24, 2001 8:00 PM
Damon

The king headset I have, being a 1" threaded- threads on the fork as well as into the the headset. At least this is what I think my problem was, which a typical cable mount does no have enough room. When the shop mechanic explained it to me (he is italian, so there is some language barrier) it made sense, they did not have and clamp on stem hangers, and we looked in I think it was QBP. And the option or best extra sales option was to install a v-brake, at the time I did not know much about v's/ mini v's or canti's. I was more into road and fix gears.

Is there a cable stop that clamps onto the vertical portion of the quill stem? I have not been able to find this, some shops said they have not seen one of the stem cable stop in five or so years. If I remember it was made by control tech or profile??
King HS conversion kit availableKenS
Dec 30, 2001 2:01 PM
I noticed that there is a Gripnut --> 2nut conversion kit on the Chris King web site that is designed to deal with the canti hanger problem. Check it out.
Regular V vs.Mini VJrm
Dec 24, 2001 7:45 AM
Yup Regular V's dont work at all with STI. The mini v's however work great with STI and they re cheap. Using a mini v would solve your problems all together.
Seems like the mini V's are the solution!buffalosorrow
Dec 24, 2001 8:12 PM
Cheers and thanks.

I will still get the braking power of V's and eliminate the squishy feel of regular V's. Tektro makes cheap ones?
Seems like the mini V's are the solution!jrm
Dec 27, 2001 12:14 PM
Yup, part number is 913a. available in blk, red ,and silver. Ran me $17.99 each USD. Cant wait to try um on the + check
Seems like the mini V's are the solution!HENRY
Jan 2, 2002 7:24 PM
NOT TO SOUND DUMB BUT...WHAT ARE MINI-Vs
There is a solutionSprntr1
Dec 24, 2001 11:34 AM
Take a look at this link
http://www.steelmancycles.com/hisandhers.html

This bike is has chorus ergolevers, chrisking headset and cantilever brakes
only problem...buffalosorrow
Dec 24, 2001 8:08 PM
I am trying to mend a grip nut style threaded headset problem, the one pictured in the link was threadless.

As I have found the grip nut king headset (that I removed from a road bike) will not accept any spacer or cable stop ring.
re: What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?joey
Dec 23, 2001 10:02 AM
I would try the Redline Radius. I have a set and they work really well. The design is similar to the SRPs and the best part is that they retail for between $40-$50 for a pair.(As in enough for one bike) Good luck.
re: What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?mackgoo
Dec 23, 2001 10:35 AM
Campy OR of course.;)
Magura HS-66s (nm)TonyD
Dec 23, 2001 4:31 PM
nm
cheap, but gooddamon
Dec 23, 2001 5:00 PM
Have you looked at old shimano high profile "SLR" brakes? Good stuff for a cross bike. Actually thinking about finding a set and replacing my XTR cantis with them.
Those are actually some of the better cantilevers i've used, really... Especially since you can find them for like $5 or $10 a pair (per wheel).

That is of course, only if you aren't the type to drop $150 on a set of new brakes meant to be a lot like old ones... :-)

-Damon
Any one have mini V's up for sale?buffalosorrow
Dec 24, 2001 8:14 PM
my email is:
buffalosorrow@lycos.com
Try Henry's Bikestriangleforge
Dec 27, 2001 1:24 PM
Henry's Bikes in Wilmington, DE has a sale price of $25/set listed on their website at www.henrysbikes.com -- look under "Cyclocross Accessories" at the bottom of the page.

Cheers!
BRAD
re: What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?Beaver
Dec 28, 2001 5:54 AM
My old Redline Conquest cross bike had a canti cable stop that mounted on the hole in the fork where a road caliper brake would be installed. FWIW, I ran Shimano LX Cantis then upgraded to Avid Cantis. No problems with either set of brakes.

You should be able to get these cable stops through Quality or by looking around the web..Excel Sports, Cambria, Colorado Cyclist, Sheldon Brown.
re: What are the 'best' cross cantilevers?Mtn. Pedaler
Dec 30, 2001 8:28 PM
Since you're going to put them on your single speed, Dia-Compe makes a v-brake drop lever. It's called the 287-V drop lever. I've never used them and I don't know anybody who has so I can't say if they work or not. Judging from the wholesale price I'd say the probably retail for about $60. Later, Paul