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Baltimore Course Hints?(17 posts)

Baltimore Course Hints?triangleforge
Dec 10, 2001 11:41 AM
Any insights you're willing to share on the Patterson Park course for this weekend's Nats in Baltimore would be most appreciated! FWIW, I'll be racing the 40+ field on Saturday morning, if that makes any difference in your generousity with information ;-)

re: Baltimore Course Hints?themayor
Dec 10, 2001 1:13 PM
Sorry...we're in the same class. I can't tell you anything.

The course is on a terraced area. The real elavation numbers aren't huge...but there will be drops and some off cambers. There's also a stair run up.Sunday's SuperCup will be a rerouting and a little shorter.
Say Hi!triangleforge
Dec 10, 2001 2:48 PM
It'll likely be crowded at the start, but if you spot one of us in Squadra Coppi kit (there should be at least three of us) say hello! I'll attach a pic from coverage of the final race of the Virginia CX series.

Good Luck!
Brad DeVries (here's hoping my Dutch name gives me a little boost!)
Hi there,sailor.themayor
Dec 11, 2001 5:52 AM
Probalby easier to say hi now.
As of last nite, there were about 90 in the 40+...and SuperCup35+ is almost full.
Big Field Survival Skillstriangleforge
Dec 11, 2001 1:01 PM
90+ -- Wow.

That calls to mind a question; any special advice on moving up & staying out of trouble in a large cyclocross field? I'm used to it in road races, but the vast majority of 'cross races I've done have quickly broken up into small groups of 3-5, then into solo efforts with occasional one-on-one battles. Any tips you can offer would be appreciated, and in everyone's own selfish interest -- remember, the tangle of bikes & bikers you help prevent may be your own! ;-)

Big Field Survival Skillsthemayor
Dec 11, 2001 1:40 PM
Well...having a last name like Wade,Rutledge or Hayles seems to allow you to just ride away from the field ;^D

Some people seem to think yelling a lot helps ( these are the same people who honk thier horn constantly in a traffic jam)

I have found being in the port-a-potty ( had to go cuz of nerves)when the gun goes off makes for a pretty traffic free first lap.
how did you find out the registration count? (nm)Eric
Dec 12, 2001 9:29 AM
how did I find out the registration count?themayor
Dec 12, 2001 11:33 AM
I have high friends in low places.
re: Baltimore Course Hints?climbo
Dec 10, 2001 1:17 PM
i just keep hearing that it will be fun and technical, lots of turns, off cambers, nothing easy, something that is going to need skill and speed and all that CX is about.
killer hurricane is coming!Eric
Dec 10, 2001 7:31 PM
You two better stay home. Any ideas on how to persuade all of the other 40+ to stay home too :-)
Special deal for 40+ ridersthemayor
Dec 11, 2001 6:03 AM
I just want to pass some tips on to you guys:
! Go out and do 7-10 hours days with no water for the next few days.
Then of Friday...I will use my diesel van to motor pace you guys through some of Baltimore's finest neighborhoods.Afterwards, I'll have an all you can eat buffet of my special pork and chicken sushi.
Somebody's cribbing my training secrets <NM>triangleforge
Dec 11, 2001 7:00 AM
re: Baltimore Course Hints?Wayne
Dec 11, 2001 7:59 AM
I raced at the venue last year when the district championships were held there. Great venue for a course, lots of interesting stuff (multiple stairs, cobbled road, paved road, steep drops, etc.). Not really any flat stuff, you're either going to be going up or down. As great of a venue it is as far as course potential the area is less than ideal but hopefully won't produce any real negatives. There is little parking (essentially on the streets), not a very nice neighborhood, etc. I would recommend bringing a trainer to warm-up on. There is a loop road around the perimeter of the park but this might be incorporated into the course? And last year there was glass everywhere. Streets are all city blocks so I doubt you could get warmed up on them.
parking situationEric
Dec 12, 2001 6:20 AM
This is my biggest concern right now. If we have to park on the street, are there meters? If so, will the course go by them so we can feed them as we race :-) My only strategy so far is to get there really early and try for something close-ish.
parking situationthemayor
Dec 12, 2001 6:34 AM
I talked to Tim Johnson and Marc Gullickson....and both said parking is thier biggest concern too! I mean...this is's all about parking! I hear some people are going to put lawn chairs in parking spots to save them ( that's a south Boston reference joke)!

I plan to run a valet parking service there. Just give your keys to a Gearworks/SRP rider ( especially if your driving a posh Euro car) and we will take care of it.
No meters...Wayne
Dec 12, 2001 7:53 AM
that I remember. It's basically in a residential area as I recall. Getting a spot adjacent to the park will probably be very difficult not sure what else is around there other than row houses and what looked like the projects on our way through last year. Might not be good idea to leave vuluables in the car depending on which direction you park away from the park.
What I'm doing.Jonathan
Dec 13, 2001 8:03 PM
I'm not racing, just watching, but this is my plan.

I'm gonna get on the Light Rail somewhere up 83, and take it to the Inner Harbor area. Light Rail parking areas are pretty secure. From Inner Harbor its about a 10 block ride to Patterson Park. I've been lost in East Baltimore and never want to repeat that series of events.