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Hey DC / MD / VA crossers TSV series starts Sunday(4 posts)

Hey DC / MD / VA crossers TSV series starts Sundayswede16
Nov 2, 2001 10:31 AM
It is a good series put on by Team Snow Valley. See www.tsv.org for more info.

Can't beat it for 10 bucks a race.
re: Hey DC / MD / VA crossers TSV series starts Sundaymtbr007
Nov 2, 2001 1:18 PM
Umm, last I remember the TSV races were more like a mountain bike course. If that's there idea of cross, they can keep it. Also, the organizers seem to not want to work with any other cross promoters in the DC area trying to bring cross a little more south in the Mid-Atlantic from the NJ/PA/DE hub by not being willing to discuss scheduling and then tossing their series dates out at the last minute (late Sep/early Oct) when other races have already been planned i.e. Charlottesville.

OK....breathe breathe breathe.

IMHO, I think most people would prefer to do either the race in NJ or VA.
re: Hey DC / MD / VA crossers TSV series starts Sundayswede16
Nov 2, 2001 6:08 PM
Sure one of the venues has a bunch of single track in the woods (I would say about 40% at most). But the other venue, the one this weekend, is almost all grass/gravel.

I don't know if TSV is "not willing to discuss" their schedule or not. And, frankly, I don't care. They put on a decent 5 race series within easy driving distance from the DC metro area. And they are not trying to compete with either the MAC or VA State Series evidenced by their lack of a big purse, prizes, and license requirement. It seems to me that they are just offering a low-key race series for training/fun purposes.
re: Hey DC / MD / VA crossers TSV series starts Sundaymtbr007
Nov 3, 2001 1:32 PM
---Sure one of the venues has a bunch of single track in the woods (I would say about 40% at most).

Then how is that cyclocross?

---But the other venue, the one this weekend, is almost all grass/gravel.

Now that's more like it.

---I don't know if TSV is "not willing to discuss" their schedule or not.

I am new to the DC area after living in New England where I helped organize a few races. (fewer than I wished but riding+racing+grad school=no time) After moving here I was surprised to see the only club (other than TSV) that promoted 'cross races was primarily a MTB club. This is in an area with at least 15 road clubs in DC/NoVA and at least that many on the way to Baltimore. So my comment about TSVs reluctance to discuss cooperate is second-hand. I do remember during the summer when every other organizer was trying to finalize MAC, VACX, and other race schedules, TSV was nowhere to be found and preferred to keep to themselves. I guess that's fine and dandy for some, but given the amount of roadies and MTBRs in this metro area and the amount of parks (look at Fairfax county alone), the fact that there is only a couple of races within 30 minutes of the city is kind of pitiful.

---And, frankly, I don't care.

Well for someone who doesn't care, you did spend the time to post your original message about the race. In my mind, that shows you do care..you do want people to show up..and you do want people to race and have a fun time. I am just thinking (albeit a little sarcastically in my first message) that if organizers worked together we could perhaps have more races in the DC/Baltimore area and no conflicting dates.

---They put on a decent 5 race series within easy driving distance from the DC metro area.

Good, we should have more. Next year, I am hoping to run Saturday races to coincide with the Sunday races in Reston. It will be good for those that can't race on Sunday and good for those that drive 4+ hours so they can do two races for the driving distance of one.

---And they are not trying to compete with either the MAC or VA State Series evidenced by their lack of a big purse, prizes, and license requirement. It seems to me that they are just offering a low-key race series for training/fun purposes.

But why then schedule on the same dates as other races in the area? Why use as advertising the $10 entry knowing that other races are $15-20? Why wait until the last minute to publicly release a schedule? If that's not competition, what is?