|bigger fields this year?||climbo|
Oct 15, 2001 5:21 AM
|I notice in the Mid-Atlantic that field sizes are much bigger this year. In the first 2 B races of the year we had 40+ each time. A is not so big but there are a few B's that could do A's no problem, they should, $1000 cash for each race. Lots more racers out there but not in the Women's/Juniors category. Should make the UCI sanctioned B races really tough this year with all the non-intl-licensed A riders doing B's !! Also, Tim Johnson messing it up with Vervecken, good practice for Worlds...Go Tim!!|
|re: bigger fields this year?||EricM|
Oct 15, 2001 10:42 AM
|I was just talking to my girlfriend about this same topic. When I did my first race 2 seasons ago the field size of that race (C race) was 22 people. Last year I did 8 races in pa/md/nj and no race had over 30 people. Now we're toping out at 50.
Also have you noticed the change in the seriousness of the racers. 2 bikes are becoming more and more normal in the B races when just last year you wouldn't even see a second set of wheels.
It's pretty cool and I cannot wait to see how long it continues. I wonder if the cold weather will change the large size of the fields.
|re: bigger fields this year?||climbo|
Oct 15, 2001 2:29 PM
|I have noticed that a little also. That and the riding level of a B rider is pretty high this year. Granogue was great on Sunday but I think it needed one more set of barriers to make it a little harder. On to Beacon's race Saturday and Monkey Hill Sunday, I can feel the pain now!!|
Oct 16, 2001 11:56 AM
Are you guys going to put that bunny hop at the base of the hill this year, I think Brian said you were thinking about not doing it? Maybe a chicane or something to slow people down would be nice and make the hill harder.
Oct 16, 2001 4:07 PM
|how do you know I'm with Beacon? Anyway, yes, it will be in the race again this year but the course has changed to include part of the road. It should still be a fast course, definitely not as hilly as Granogue. I haven't seen it yet but it sounds good. Still has the stair run-up and the sand pit slog.
What group do you race with? I'll see you there, say hi if you see me. I'll be there all day working.
Oct 17, 2001 4:30 AM
|I must have seen you post something here that revealed it. Plus, I'm familiar with Beacon because I know Brian, so I would recognize the team name. I race for First State Velo Sport in the B's, on a green Redline. Say hi|
Oct 17, 2001 4:54 AM
|ok, will do. See you Saturday.|
|re: bigger fields this year?||mtbr007|
Oct 16, 2001 2:12 PM
|You bring up an interesting point. I thought the course was great (except for the fact that the climbs quickly revealed how long I have been off the bike.)
As it was the course was in violation of current UCI regs that only allow one artificial obstacle of two barriers on a course. To add another section would make sense. Perhaps, the first single could have been turned into a double with a chicane in the middle forcing riders to corner with the bikes.
Of course, Granogue was not a UCI event (but it could be..hint! hint!) so the course could have whatever the promoters wanted barring a revolt by riders. It seems the current trend in course design is to be as "euro" as possible, however, "euro" can either mean a Swiss course on a hillside with muddy roots over everything and more chicane sections that you can shake a stick at, French races with lots of fast hard grass (Worlds '96), Belgian "mud" (sand) or Belgian "mud" (mud).
I am actually starting to miss some of the courses that had short (emphasize short) sections in the woods. Not tight singletrack with wheel-busting rocks but something that adds a little more to the bike handling element....and chicane sections with so many loop-back hairpins that you get dizzy. Anyway, they're all fun.
Oh well, thought I would add my 2 pennies and some pocket lint.
|re: bigger fields this year?||climbo|
Oct 16, 2001 4:09 PM
|me too. courses that need more bike handling skills suit guys like me, i.e. MTB'er first, roadie second. I haven't got the legs to keep up on the faster open space courses. It's all good though !!|
|re: bigger fields this year?||johan|
Oct 19, 2001 9:27 AM
|Actually, the fields are not any bigger this year. I still have the results from last years Evo race at Belmont. There were 168 entrants, Hickory Run this year had 167. 49 riders both years in the "B" race. What's interesting is the bigger turnover in the "B" field as opposed to the "A". Not just people moving up, but old names gone and new ones to take their place. What I did not find as amusing is that I haven't managed to place any higher, I just get beat by different guys ;)
Good luck this weekend. I know Monkey Hill will be fun and I'm looking forward to the sands of South Jersey tomorrow.