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Cross Bike Choices, Lemond, Surley.........?(11 posts)

Cross Bike Choices, Lemond, Surley.........?KMan1
Aug 17, 2001 11:56 AM
I read thru all fo the archives on cross bike choices for a newbey and see that a few are a repetitive choice, ie Lemond Poprad, Surley Crosscheck, Fuji Cross. Some of the archives are old and are there anyother bikes I should be looking at as well?
I want to narrow it down to a few good choices then go out and test ride them for a final choice.

Thanks for all of your help.

PS any good sites to review on cross racing so I dont look like a total dork at my first race.

KMan
Everybody does in their first race. That is the challange.MB1
Aug 17, 2001 12:05 PM
Gunnar/Waterford is nice, I have a SS on order. I am riding a Bianchi now and really like it and will keep it. If you can find a shop that has any variety of cross bikes in stock you are doing really well. Test ride everything you can. Buy comfort.
Good Luck & keep checking the archives.
plus...climbo
Aug 17, 2001 12:18 PM
Dean, Fort, Sycip, Redline, Steelman, Brew, Pinarello, Ibis, Diamondback, K2, Trek, Specialized, Serotta, IF, any more??? You'll have to narrow it down to how much you want to spend and then you can narrow it down to what you can test ride in your area and go from there. Many of these bikes listed are custom frames and very expensive. Stick to a good all-round complete bike that you can test ride before moving on to something more $$$.
Getting into crossMarlon
Aug 17, 2001 12:37 PM
Right. I've decided to take the big leap and get into 'crossing. In order to make my 'cross season as painful (and as cheap) as can be, I'm planning to convert my ex-girlfriend's old 535 steel-lugged Peugeot touring frame, rip out the old biopace components and ditch the 7-speed freewheel, slap on a 7-speed RSX gruppo I have lying around the house along with CXP-23 wheels that I found, and pray to god that the whole thing will hold together. The frame, although a little heavy, is sound, and I've going to have her stripped, cleaned her (the bike, not the ex), and smacked down with Framesaver in it. Pedals, I've got some old Ritchey logics hanging around as well. Did I miss anything, or am I on crack? I've also heard something about switching the brake cabling, with rear brake controls on the left, and front on the right.
that's the way to do it !!climbo
Aug 17, 2001 12:52 PM
I started with a cheapo bike too, a 25 pound singlespeed Batavus. It's fun to put stuff together like that. Are you on crack? Only you can answer that but it might help for CX racing you know. Most people who don't know what it is think we ARE on crack when they are out in the park walking their dog and they see us there in the middle of winter doing this crazy stuff on bikes!!!

For switching, personally I don't. Some people do it so that as they jump off on the left hand side of the bike they can brake with the left hand and have it on the rear for better control. I prefer to leave it and I actually use the front brake to help "pop" the back of the bike up as I get off so that I don't have to bend right down to get it on my shoulder. Some like the endo and some don't, it just takes practice and personal preference to see what you like best. Of course, if you are a "lefty" and actually get off on the right hand side of the bike (makes no sense but you know what I mean), it is already switched for you, unless of course, if you like the endo methos in which case you might swap to have right lever hit front brake.

Is that clear? I need a beer!! Of which, beer, is an important supplement to CX. In Europe everybody spectating is drunk at the races all the time, I suppose it helps them deal with the freezing cold temperatures.
you go Marlon!lonefrontranger
Aug 17, 2001 1:20 PM
climbo is right, the best way to do it is on the cheap. I started out with an old Fuji tourer that I spread the stays on. Daggone thing must have weighed 40 lbs. Of course, once they're covered in mud, ALL 'cross bikes weigh 40 lbs, whether they cost $300 dollars or $3000.

Check out the links and info I posted for KMan. I'm of the belief that everyone should get a copy of Simon Burney's book (you can get it from either Amazon or VeloPress). The technique stuff in there is incredible.

I reverse my brakes on the 'cross bike. I tend to be a speed barrier freak, so the idea of charging into speed barriers at 20+ mph, hanging halfway off the bike with one hand wrapped around the FRONT brake lever is (even to me) a little scary.

As climbo mentioned, it's sheer personal preference. I've run them both ways, and decided to stick with the rear on the left. The 'endo' method doesn't work well for me, since I'm so short I carry from the down tube anyhow.

Control is usually a good idea during the mega yard sales that occur at speed hurdles when the 4/5s succumb to the first-lap jitters. Usually just after the leader has realized that SPD's cranked down to Expert MTB ubertension aren't appropriate for 'cross dismounts (splat).
info on the IBIS frameak
Aug 27, 2001 6:11 PM
do you know anything other than what I can find out by reading it on the IBIS web-page? if so, pleaase share.
my favorite cross siteslonefrontranger
Aug 17, 2001 12:57 PM
Mad Dog Media: www.maddogmedia.com/crossnet/index.html - check out his "Cross 101" stuff; not only is it hilarious, it's also quite valid rookie "anti-dork" material. I've used it in my clinics with his blessing.

www.cyclo-cross.com/ They're British, don't let that faze you.

www.CyclocrossWorld.com/ Commercial site, but they've got good stuff, too.

While you're at it, go to amazon.com and order a copy of Simon Burney's "Cyclo-Cross". It's the definitive Bible of all things cyclocross. Even though they spell the topic in the Euro fashion (we Yanks are too lazy to reach for the em dash apparently).
re: Cross Bike Choices, Lemond, Surley.........?mtnrogue
Aug 20, 2001 6:44 AM
I got the Lemond 1st of the year. It may be the lightest frame of the ones mentioned. Mine weights 20.5 lbs but this was after spending a lot of $$ replacing the stock parts. It was worth it though, I love the bike and it gives a nice smooth road ride too. Colonago makes a cross bike that I would check out too.

mark
re: Cross Bike Choices, Lemond, Surley.........?M Marrie
Aug 22, 2001 4:55 PM
I just got a Steelman. They were great to work with and pretty quick compared to others I have worked with. I love the bike. It's no-nonsense. Light. Perfect. I feel I got everything for a very reasonable price. I highly recommend calling Brent Steelman.
re: Cross Bike Choices, Lemond, Surley.........?the mayor
Aug 24, 2001 10:13 AM
The LeMond and Fuji are pretty nice...so is the Redline. Surly's are a little heavy but cheap.
The Burney book "Cyclcross Technique" is a good primer. Read it and practice...and watch the fast guys at a race. And don't be afraid to ask the fast guys questions.....most are more than willing to help.