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Newby, help w/ a cyclocross/road bike.....(11 posts)

Newby, help w/ a cyclocross/road bike.....KMan1
Aug 9, 2001 7:45 AM
Sport MTB racer here making the move up to expert soon. Have been training with my MTB using slicks on the road.

Have the desire to pick up some cyclocross racing now (it is getting pretty big in my area (SE PA, NJ, DE. MD) for the competitiveness & winter training. I know nada about it right now.

Not a lot of $$ to spend so I will probably try and buy a used bike for now. Any recomendations on a bike or what I should be looking for (steering away from) on a bike that I can use for cross racing in the winter and road training rides in the spring/summer?

my thoughtsmtnrogue
Aug 9, 2001 8:37 AM
I bought a Lemond Poprad(steel frame/fork)($800 stock) last year for cross racing, and road training rides. I did upgrade to some 105 sti's and some wheels that I liked better. I would check out the cross bike reviews at this site.

usually at races last year's bikes are for saleclimbo
Aug 9, 2001 10:36 AM
if you can use your MTB for the first few, you might be able to pick up a bike at one of the races. If not, many brands to choose from, Trek is coming out with a basic bike like the XO1 they had last year with barcons, Kona has a couple of models under $1,000, Redline is reasonably cheap, Surly, Lemond's I've heard only good things about. If you have a Trek dealer nearby, the last year Trek's are going realy cheap if you can get one. The biggest choices are barcon shifters v. integrated and steel v. alu. I rode a steel SS last year but am going to get an alu frame this year for the weight saving.
re: Newby, help w/ a cyclocross/road bike.....Jan Gerrit Klok = "TUFO-man"
Aug 9, 2001 1:15 PM
If you mean to give the large rims and muddy courses a try without spending too much $$, surf to....

... and score your set of brakeadapters.
It will make the 700c wheelset you buy fit in your MTB. Just grab an old MTB bar and cut it to a regulation 50cm and you got a crossbike. I did this last season and got away with it, even on our Elite Nationals. Ok, your BB will rise some half inch and your MTB brakes won't give much tire clearance, but you will definately get a nice idea what cross is all about.
Otherwise, a nice used bike is always a cool way to fill your bikeshed...

Welcome to cross!!!
re: Newby, help w/ a cyclocross/road bike.....KMan1
Aug 10, 2001 11:45 AM
So if I am running disc brakes I would just need a new wheelset (disc hubs built up to a 700c rim..... & bar?

KMan, now you are freakin' me out ...MB-7
Aug 9, 2001 4:06 PM
I'm looking at racin' cross this fall/winter too! We really are too much alike. I'm going to race cross in order to maintain my fitness level before the XC-ski season starts. Also, most of my MTB XC race buds do cross and they say it's a blast, so I'm going to give it a go.

I'm new to the sport so I'm soaking in all the information I can get.
As for cross bikes, I'm considering either the '01 Kona Major Jake or the '00 Kona Jake the Snake -- seem like great value for the buck. There are lots of models out there (Specialized, Cannondale, LeMond, Jamis, etc.) and the prices are very good.

As for the B4s - I'm sold on 'em and will be buying the pair I'm demo'ing. I haven't demo'd the Minis yet, but I can't see the need for it. I've been racin' them hard for over 1 month and they've performed perfectly -- powerful, well modulated and o-so-light!

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
B4s??? Please enlighten me, what are those?Jan Gerrit Klok = "TUFO-man"
Aug 9, 2001 10:20 PM
Mike, please tell me more about the B4s, brand, etcetera? I'm always interested in good stuff, both for the shop and my own use...


Happy Trails,

Jan Gerrit
B4s are....MB-7
Aug 10, 2001 4:04 AM
Formula B4s are the lightest hydraulic disc brake available. They offer great power (considering their size), are well modulated and are only 713g/pair (everything included).

Kman is/was interested in them and since I'm demo'ing a pair, he wanted my feedback on them. For more information on the brake, go here:

Although they are a MTB disc brake, they could also be used for cross.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
MB-7, nice meeting you over here........KMan1
Aug 10, 2001 11:41 AM
Damn shame your so far away as we should get together some time, great minds think alike. Looking into cross for the same reasons, fun for the winter & to maintain fitness for next season. Was planning on staying in sport for one more season, but my end of year results may force a move up to expert.

Same here, just trying to get some info for a cross bike/training bike as tired of riding my Racer X w/ slicks on the road. Cross is really big in my area and many of the local teams all participate in it.

I just bought a set of the B4's, new wheelset from B4me (AM classic disc hubs, WS 14/15 spokes, alloy nipples & Velocity VXC rims and a Duke Race. Getting an early start on my winter rebuild project....wont have anything to do over the winter as far as replacing parts.....

Welcome to Expert....MB-7
Aug 10, 2001 6:37 PM
This is my second season racing Ex -- it's definitely a lot different than racing Sport. Be prepared to get spanked! I've been placing in the top 20 at the Provincial Cup races, which is what I hoped to do. I've certainly seen an increase in my fitness, cardio and technical riding since racing in Ex. Depending on this season's results, I may move up to Elite/Pro.

Locally, I race my singlespeed against other Ex/Elites and do very fact, I finished 2nd the other night (beating out 4 other local Pro riders ;) )- only 25s behind 1st!

Racing/riding singlespeed has really opened my eyes to a new level of pain and riding. You'd be amazed at what you can ride with only 1 gear when you conserve your momentum and don't have to worry 'bout shifting. I'm going to be racing my SS at the 24 Hours of Adrenaline next weekend and my race it in a couple Provincial races -- we'll see. I just love spankin' geared riders ;)

I love racin' and the camaraderie of racing -- that's part of the reason I'm looking to race cross. That, and to keep my fitness level up.

BTW, sweet wheelset. Let me know how those AMs hold up. I'm still beatin' on my Hope Bulb wheelset and haven't killed 'em yet -- which is more than I can say for a couple other parts on my bikes (blown and busted '01 SID Race (I separated the stanchion from the crown), blown singlespeed rear hub) ... and I'm only 135lbs! I've toyed with going with Kings, 240s, or AMs, but I can't kill my Bulbs.

Aren't winter projects great? Hey, BTW, it's only August ;)

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
Hey, Hold on.....KMan1
Aug 13, 2001 12:01 PM
Dont push me up to Expert just yet. This is my 3rd year in sport & 1st to do any actual training. Unfortunately w/ 2 youg daughters I'm still lucky to get in 4-6 hrs of riding per week. I think when I finally move to expert I will need a few more hours a week to be competetive. Dont worry I fully understand that I will get spanked my first year. I ride with a few other Expert SS racers who can dust most of us. Not a pretty sight on our egos.

I unfortunately bought the Hope Bulb hubs in the older 5-bolt pattern unknowingly they had just came out with the 6 bolt pattern. So Hopefully I can sell my 2 sets or bight the bullet on them (maybe buy some used hubs and sell them?????
Also didnt realize just how heavy the bulbs were compaired to other disc hubs, I will look forward to the weight reduction. I am hoping to loose close to 1.5lbs between the new B4's and wheelset. Should be a big help ion my last 3 races of our series.