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Did you guys see this "cyclocross" bike?(13 posts)

Did you guys see this "cyclocross" bike?BigJ
Jul 25, 2001 8:03 AM
Friggin' hilarious setup:

Don't be too hard on the guy - it seems he's an old guy just looking for some exercise - but the person at the LBS who sold him this ought to be drawn and quartered, tarred and feathered and then shot in the head.

what's wrong with it?BigJ
Jul 25, 2001 9:45 AM
You're right - although I think he should have flipped the handlebars upside down and installed a banana seat and a sissy bar.

If it doesn't fit him, it might get very badverslowrdr (aka Mary Ann)
Jul 25, 2001 4:49 PM
NOTE: I'm VERY glad Al is getting out there and riding. More power to him. However, there could be a down side to his setup that goes beyond esthetics.

In my limited experience such a radical mod to handlebars means 1. frame doesn't fit and/or 2. the owner is ignorant to what a good body position can do for him.

I trashed my knees years ago on a bike that was too small for me because I didn't know any better and that's what the shop sold. To this day I have to be careful not to aggrivate them. I'd sure hate for Al- or anyone for that matter- to go through the same thing I did.

My hope is that he ends up at a decent LBS that will give him some good advice and fitting help, and that he'll listen to them.
wow. (nm)!
Jul 25, 2001 8:55 AM
Jul 26, 2001 11:29 AM
this aberration made me cut off my mullet. GA!
What is with you guys?Jefroman
Jul 28, 2001 11:58 AM
If you look at his saddle position and stem reach you`ll notice it compares to 99% of the road/cross bikes you guys ride.As I get older my hb. height gets higher and higher.From 3" below saddle 15 years ago to 1" above on a custom frame being deliverd next week.This guy knows what is comfortable for him.The rotation of his bars might be a bit high but who knows , it might work.Sounds to me like you guys are more worried about form over function.I can tell you who I would rather ride with.
Re: "I can tell you who I would rather ride with"BigJ
Jul 30, 2001 4:31 AM
You two baby boomers have fun now...;-)
Re: "I can tell you who I would rather ride with"BigJ
Jul 30, 2001 6:25 AM
>>>didn't you just get your first cross bike? (glass houses and all)

Yep, sure did.

>>>have you looked at the Rivendell comments re handlebar height?

Uh, according to their website: "Rivendell Technologies, Inc. is a very small software development company." I don't see the connection.

>>>do your parents know you're on the computer again?

Why is it that anytime someone has a problem with someone else on the Internet (or Usenet for that matter), they automatically label the other person as a child? Come on, man, say what's on your mind instead of resorting to the old "You're a baby" routine. For the record, I'm 35 years old and I've been riding / racing since 1983. Just not cyclocross.

My original post still stands. I think the way that the bike in the picture is set up is beyond ridiculous. I am not slamming the person who bought it, and if it works for him, then hey, more power to him. But you wouldn't catch me dead on that contraption. It looks like it rides more like a chopper than any kind of 'cross bike, with those bars way up in the air. If the guy simply wanted a bike to get him around town, the LBS should have steered him towards a hybrid for about half the price.

Good day now,

Re: "I can tell you who I would rather ride with"BigJ
Jul 30, 2001 10:01 AM
>>>Rivendell rock - surprised you haven't heard of them before - almost got their All Rounder when I was shopping - look around their website there's alot of info./myths dispelled - especially about handlebar height - come back after you've read that - interested in your comments

I had not seen this website before. Interesting (albeit heretical) viewpoints. Judging by their estimations, a guy 5'9" should be on a 60cm road bike. Holy s***! I'm 6'0" and ride a 58. Which if I used their scale would put me in something like a 62 or 63. Now I can tell you that when I straddle my road bike (in my shoes, mind you), that I've got about 1/2 - 3/4" clearance between the top tube and my crotch (my perinium, not my genitals - this apparantly makes a difference as per their website). I can't see how I could go any larger in frame size and still be able to touch the ground when actually on the thing. Now their ideas on raising the stem in order to shorten up the reach to the drops make a lot of sense, but remember that this is at the expense of a less aerodynamic position on the bike. So if you're interested in comfort, like our friend on the Fuji, I can see raising the stem - just not to the degree that he has taken it. I can't keep from thinking that he'd be a lot better off with riser bars and a decent mountain bike gruppo.

>>>I'm pleased that in your 18 years (experience clear by your comments re your new steed) in the cycling community you've come to be so inclusive. Do you make fun of people who ride tandems/ recumbents/unicycles too

Tandems - no. Recumbants - sometimes. Unicycles - when was the last time you saw someone outside of a circus on a unicycle?

>>> - or do you just reserve disparaging comments for people with health problems?

I don't reserve these comments to any one group. I tend to apply them equally.


P.S. Nicely veiled stab at me via the Poprad remark.
Re unicyclesD'Oily
Aug 1, 2001 9:10 AM
Funnily enough - on this site. There is a bunch of them that ride MTUs off road out near SF somewhere every Friday. So there...
Hey, BigJ: Your bike's too smallRetro
Aug 23, 2001 7:43 AM
Jeez, man, what is it, slamming people you don't agree with? Grant Petersen at Rivendell has more experience than 97 percent of the people in the business, and his ideas aren't "heretical," they're traditional.
If you like riding along with your neck craned back and your butt in the air, go for it. But when I bought my Atlantis, I set it up the way he recommended, just to see how it worked, and I liked it so much (way more comfortable, way more time in the saddle and NO SLOWER ANYWHERE) that I went back and changed my other bikes to match it. The bicycle industry is marketing- and trend-driven these days (who really needs a 10-speed cassette? How many of us can actually use a 53-11 top gear?). Why bust a guy who questions the hype?
ridin down to catholic services w/ a 40 in my bellyy
Aug 1, 2001 12:41 PM
He just needs to rotate the handlebars back a little further to achieve the proper homeless, alcoholic, "ridin down to the mission," position. Should probably switch to stem shifters, however.
to each his own.adam_s
Aug 13, 2001 4:06 PM
how old are we? i thought i had graduated from high school. more power to him. keep it constructive, ok?