|bikes of course||airway|
Jul 19, 2001 11:29 AM
|I've been reading the messages on this board why are people so in love with surly and propad bike, my friend told be the surly components are very average . any comments?|
|re: bikes of course||BigJ|
Jul 19, 2001 12:22 PM
|Because they're cheap, relatively speaking; if your friend can come up with a good 'cross frame with great components for under $1000.00 then he should start advertising here. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to purchase one.
For me, I didn't want to spend $2500.00 on a 'cross bike without even knowing if I'm going to like the sport. I love mountain biking (I already knew that), and yet the Fisher that I race on only cost me $1150.00. The only components that I've upgraded so far have been the cranks, chainrings and bottom bracket. I also like road riding, but I don't LOVE it like I do mountain biking, and I kick myself every time I remember that I spent over 2 grand on my Masi. I could have bought a road bike for a lot less, and then spent the extra money on more necessary items. So basically, as far as cyclocross goes, if I find out that I love it and want to stick with it, then after a couple of seasons of beating the sh*t out of my LeMond Poprad I can upgrade to a more expensive bike. I'm willing to live with some "average" components in the meantime.
What kind of cyclocross bike does your friend have, by the way?
Jul 19, 2001 6:24 PM
|... is the key word. IF you have more to dump on a bike that is more specific to the discipline, go right ahead.
However, just having picked up a Surly the other day, I can't beleive they're letting it go for $895 MSR. Ritchy stem, Salsa Bar Lap bars, Deore hubs... maybe not the best components in the world, but compare it to a similarly priced Cannondale and you'll see what I mean. I don't think it will appeal to serious racers, but as a do-it-all kind of bike, it's pretty amazing.
(note: I'm not dishing on Cannondale per se- I just think they're terribly overpriced when compared to the competition)
|not all are complete||brass nipple|
Jul 20, 2001 4:37 AM
|Cross Checks were first available- and still are- as an frameset only... inexpensive ($350) and good quality. Those of us with big old parts boxes were able to build up a cx bike on the cheap, which was the essence of cx before it became wildly popular.|
|Why Surly was my choice (NM)||badabill|
Jul 20, 2001 7:55 AM
|re: bikes of course||silver|
Jul 20, 2001 11:44 AM
|Surly bikes suck and so do poprad there both over priced at $900 your better off with a road bike better value|
|re: bikes of course: To silver||BAM|
Jul 21, 2001 10:51 AM
|A road bike will only fit the bill if your only riding on the road. If you want to go off road with a road bike and want some meatier cross tires most road bikes except true touring bikes can not handle the wider knobbier tires. Rear chainstay clearance is becoming tighter every year even on the so called sport tourers. The Poprad and the Surly both have mediocre parts, but then so do most road bikes in this price range. A 105 equiped road bike starts around $1100 to $1200, just remember that the number of cyclecross bikes compared to road bikes that a company sells in a year is much smaller. Hence a better value in a comparably priced road bike.:|| |