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Cyclocross for all things?(11 posts)

Cyclocross for all things?whgopher
Jun 26, 2001 11:19 AM
I know cyclocross is a specific discipline, etc. but
does anyone out there have experience with using a cyclocross
bike for commuting, urban rides, road rides in addition to racing cyclocross? For instance, could you use a cyclocross bike on a century if you swapped the tires?

Thanks.
re: Cyclocross for all things?minor threat
Jun 26, 2001 12:11 PM
certainly you can. the main difference, which often goes unsaid in talking about cross bikes for road use, is in bb height. cross bikes bb's are a darn site higher than road bikes and that makes a difference, brother. if anything, the trend is toward lower bb's in custom road bikes these days, which makes cross bikes stand out more. the lower bb feels better on the road; more stable, more "rail-like in corners, faster (not really), just....BETTER. this IS asubtle thing, however. there is nothing wrong with hammering on the road on your cross bike. it's just that if you had the choice, you probably would'nt, for the most part.
BB heightRay Sachs
Jun 27, 2001 7:05 AM
BB height does TEND to be higher on a lot of cross bikes and I agree that this does make a significant difference in the feel of the bike on the road. You can get 'em pretty low though. The Crosshairs, as someone mentioned, has a bb "drop" (from the wheel axles to the bb axle) of 70mm which is pretty standard for a road bike and lower than a number of criterium bikes. My Lemond Poprad has a drop of 74mm which is low for any bike and lower than their line of road bikes. I guess their thinking is that you'll ride it with fatter tires so the BB height won't be that low and they spec it with clipless pedals so you're not all that likely to have a pedal strike. I've scraped my pedal a couple of times riding this bike, but probably not much more often than I would on a mountain bike.

The Poprad, fwiw, is a great sport-touring type of road bike when you change out the tires or wheels. I wouldn't hesitate to ride a century on it and I do commute on it and use it as a backup road bike. It'd be the wrong choice for loaded touring, though - limited braze-ons and a pretty light frame, so I don't know if it would be stout enough to carry a big load.

-Ray
re: Cyclocross for all things?whgopher
Jun 26, 2001 3:33 PM
can you guys n gals suggest a good cross bike for some fast road rides, some trails rides, and a lot of city communting (ie through parks, alleys, streets, trails, etc)?
CX bike suggestions?whgopher
Jun 26, 2001 3:34 PM
can you guys n gals suggest a good cross bike for some fast road rides, some trails rides, and a lot of city communting (ie through parks, alleys, streets, trails, etc)?
CX bike suggestions?badabill
Jun 26, 2001 5:02 PM
check out the Surly Cross Check, you can see the reviews on this site.If I could only have 1 bike it would be my Surly. I will admit for hammer road rides its a tad slow (heavy). But for what you are looking for a crossbike is your best choice.
Cross check slow?gust-of-sun
Jun 27, 2001 6:51 AM
I got passed on a road ride last night by a buddy on his crosscheck. when i sped up to match his pace and try to say hi, he was doing 26mph and not really working. given the right motor, the crosscheck is on par with just about any other road bike out there.

gust-of-sun
Cross check slow?badabill
Jun 27, 2001 8:42 AM
Now I love my Surly, but my road bike is 17lbs compared to my cross checks 22lbs. after 50 miles and a few good climbs that 5lbs begins to feel like an anchor. All I am saying is all things equal a light road bike is slightly faster. Versatility is the Surly strong suit..
Yupmuncher
Jun 27, 2001 2:58 AM
Got a jake with Open Pros for the road, and MA3s for off road. Does the whole lot. Can run out of top gear (I run RT 30/40/50 with a 12 top) but that's not too much of a problem, and I could always run a larger ring.

Handy thing is, being 210 lbs, the canti's are really reassuring on the road, esp in the wet....
re: Cyclocross for all things?Bike Bloke
Jun 27, 2001 9:57 AM
Just notched up 1000 miles total mileage on my Paul Milnes Team Aluminium cross bike and its everything I wanted it to be. The idea of the build was to build a reasonably light all purpose bike for Cross, Cross Country, commuting and Audax/Fast Touring and it does everything with just a change of tyres.

With 23mm tyres it runs almost as fast as my road bike but there is a slight weight penalty with the frame.

BB height affecting cornering? cant say Ive noticed Ill concentrate more when on my next corner.

If youve only room or budget for one bike, get a cross.
Sure, why not?lonefrontranger
Jun 27, 2001 12:38 PM
To add on to all the others down the list. Agree with the high BB (for the most part) and somewhat weight penalty, but you'll never ever find a better bike for all-rounding, moderate trail riding, rain bike, urban assault vehicle, the hybrid gearing is great for winching oneself up long climbs without resorting to a triple & all the shifting angst that entails, etc, etc.

I'll race my Redline Conquest in the Colorado St. Championships crit this weekend, because my Colnago won't be built in time. It's got a real high BB, but the upside of that (for crits) is I can pedal through just about any corner they care to invent. It's also stiff like crazy in the rear triangle, so despite the long wheelbase and weight, it sprints like a scalded cat. It's great fun to get the double-takes from all the roadies, and I've been doing well this season, especially considering I ride a 26-lb spare-parts equipped sled. If you saw this thing, you'd agree that it is truly the Antichrist of road bikes, right down to the GirlsLuvDirt stickers and Lizard Skin on the chainstay. Eat my canti brake dust, folks!