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Wheel advice please...(9 posts)

Wheel advice please...Farmpunker
Jan 15, 2004 11:03 AM
Saved up and now it's time for new wheels.
Bike: Aegis Shaman.
Weight: 140.
Budget: approximately 600Cdn, or 450USD.
Intended use: general road riding, a couple duathlons this summer, possibly four cyclocross races come fall.
Weight and trick factor will take a backseat to reliability, and ease of maintaince.
Krysium Elites (on Ebay now for five Cdn)?
Handbuilt Open Pros\Ultegra\DuraAce from Speedgoat?
Handbuilt OpenPros\Kings from same?
re: Wheel adviceChen2
Jan 15, 2004 12:01 PM
If you are trying to do all of that with one set of wheels I can't imagine Ksyriums or Open Pros on a cyclocross, I guess it depends on the event. And Chris King hubs on a custom built set will break your budget. For road riding and occasional racing it's hard to beat D-A hubs, Open Pro rims, and some double butted spokes.
Second Chen's advicetorquecal
Jan 15, 2004 1:45 PM
Very hard to beat DA with open pro and double butted spokes... okay, maybe one little tweak... if you're going 32 spoke wheels you might want to check out the above setup, but with sapim CXRay spokes.
re: Wheel advice please...rssljhnsn
Jan 15, 2004 3:03 PM
Highly, highly recommend the wheels from Speedgoat. I have two sets from them, one set with XTdisc/open pros for base training miles on my mtn bike, and a set of Campy Chorus/open pro CD ceramics for my Cross bike and can't imagine a better wheel. They build a nice wheel and prices are excellent. I have not had to true either set in close to a thousand miles. Plus, you can fix any trueing/broken spoke issues easily. Can't go wrong with any of the hubs you mentioned above.
Good luck
Jan 15, 2004 4:15 PM
Good replies. Maybe should have thought out my post a little more.
I mentioned cross racing as an aside, more or less. I'd use my current wheels for cross training and racing, unless the conditions were dry and hard (ie, unlikely).
I'm more concered with general road riding, a nice fast feeling wheel, that's reliable, and cost effective. I don't mind stretching my budget to accomodate a higher end product, provided I can notice the difference.
So: DA\OpenPro (Speedgoat handbuilds) vs King\Open pro? The difference being what? Three hundred dollars and not much else?
Alternately: DA\OpenPro vs Krysium Elite(I spell it different every time)?
I must be behind the times. What are sapim CXRay spokes and what is their story?
Jan 15, 2004 5:04 PM
I've had great success with Dave Thomas at I have a set of mtb wheels that i've had for quite a few years, a set of race/train road wheels i've had for two years and a rear commuting/cross wheel that is great. They're all built specifically for my body/bike/needs after consultation with Dave and they've all been betweem $200 and $250 per wheel while beating most all similar boutique wheels for weight. In general, a reasonably priced handbuilt wheel from a really good experienced wheel builder will probably be your best bet. Find a builder you trust and just tell them what you want the wheels for. They're the experts so they can help you decide on the parts.
Clarification...Tom Goos
Jan 15, 2004 6:50 PM
Sapim CXRay spokes are aerodynamicly shaped, take a look at

They are expensive, 1,65 euro (dt revelotion 0,65 euro, sapim race 0,32 euro Netherlands)
If been looking around for some data on what differance they would make. But I haven't been able to find anything.
re: Wheel advice please...Chen2
Jan 16, 2004 7:16 AM
Nothing wrong with King hubs, I built a set with black King hubs, black Open Pro rims, black nipples, and Revolution spokes. I went into shock when my LBS handed me the bill for the parts. I personally think D-A hubs are more bang for the buck, and I respect staying within a budget.
The numbers...Farmpunker
Jan 16, 2004 8:55 AM
Using Speedgoat's wheel builder.
OpenPro\DuraAce = 376
OpenPro\King = 566

Okay, the Kings are lighter, and the Speedgoat tech told me in an email that the Kings have a better life and performance compared to the DuraAce.
200dollar difference (meaning a 250 dollar difference since I'll be paying in Canuckistan coin).
Oh, yeah, one more point. I'm currently on Mavic MA3\older Ultegras. How much difference will a new wheelset make? I've never ridding any light weight wheels before.
Thanks, again, all.