Jan 9, 2004 1:53 PM
|I am about to buy 04 record crank but was also looking at the stella azzura; SA looks kinda cool but don't look to have multi directional cf lay up of 04 Record? What's SA's selling point?
Also I am looking at SA carbon bars; Tirreno looks unique/cool looking but more plain looking Lario cost $100 more at WCP and are supposed to be used w/ SA Mag stem by many pros; can anyone tell me a little more about these bars?
|re: stella azzura||russw19|
Jan 9, 2004 3:34 PM
|Stella Azzurra makes some really nice stuff. It is a bit overpriced in my opinion, but it is well made, beautiful, and light. I have seen pretty much all of their line in person at Interbike over the past 2 years and their stuff is sweet, just pricey.
You say you are looking at the Lario and the Tirreno? They should be the same priced bar. As well as the Garda. All of them wholesale for the same amount. And they should all three have of retail of about $400 in the US.
Which one are you interested in? The Lario or the Tirreno? And what size? And what size cranks, and what pattern? From what I can tell it seems that only the 170 and 172.5 cranks have made it to the US so far. Although all 3 patterns (Taper, Octalink, and ISIS) are all available in those 2 sizes. I don't think 175's will be available for another month or two from what I was told (at least not at Hawley, which an East Coast distributor.)
|re: stella azzura||6was9|
Jan 9, 2004 4:23 PM
|I like Tirreno since it is completely different than any of my other bars. I thought of stem/bar combo bars such as Ram and Alanera but I like to use my Look ergo adjustable stem so they won't work for me.
Lario looks like an ordinary handle bar as far as looks is concerned. I was just wondering what is so great about it?
Also that goes for the SA crank as well. Is stella crank better than 04 Record crank? For one it is not a multi directional cf lay-up crank like 04 Record. BTW I need 172.5.
|Ooops, duplicate link...||6was9|
Jan 9, 2004 6:14 PM
|Here is the WCP's Lario handle bar page:
Apparently they feel they should charge more for Lario(?)
|They shouldn't charge more for the Lario..||russw19|
Jan 9, 2004 7:04 PM
|But it was the first of Stella Azzurra's bars to hit the market, and when they did they were even more overpriced. This is more along the lines of the original pricing. Which by the way is marked up pretty damn high.
With current conversion rates the bars at Tiramisu are going for about $360 USD. I don't know what shipping on that is going to be, but it's saving $40 over most US places. If I am right, USD to GBP is about 1.8 to 1.
I could get you those cranks if you want them... they are available thru the S/A distributor I deal with. As for if it's actually better than the Record crank, I don't have any idea. I would think based on seeing products from both companies you couldn't really go wrong either way. But the S/A is much cheaper, but still quite a bit more than an FSA crankset.
If you are interested in any of the Stella stuff, email me and I can get you some price quotes... I can beat any of the prices you can find, but I can't get it that fast... that's the catch. I would have about 3 weeks turn around time.
my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
|Have you checked...||6was9|
Jan 9, 2004 7:43 PM
|the wise cycle's 04 record carbon crank price? It's cheaper than WCP's SA crank price and they ship anything over $100 free.
Also you mean you can beat Tiramisu's price?
|Have you checked...||russw19|
Jan 9, 2004 11:37 PM
|Email me about it...
Here's the deal... I work at a shop, I can get this stuff, and I think most places have it ridiculously over-priced. But I am not an etailer, and I don't really want to be. I have gotten some stuff for guys on here before, but I don't want to step too hard on some dealers toes. It's not like I took out an ad for this, so I feel kinda weird about offering this to anyone... but at the same time I am only trying to help some RBR members get a better deal on some parts. Hopefully, that doesn't offend anyone.
But like I said, email me about this as I don't want to make this into an ad thread, OK?
|What makes you think it is not "multi-directional" ????||northcoast|
Jan 9, 2004 10:44 PM
|Looks like you feel that "multi-directional" is a strong point in your buying decision (I don't really know what your definition of multi-directional is) but why are you assuming that the SA cranks are not? Just from the looks? If you go by the looks you can see a carbon fiber weave with fibers at 90 deg. to each other (In my book that is multi-directional). Many carbon fiber objects use uni-directional fibers (because they are very strong) and they arrange them in multiple directions to make the product strong where it needs to be. The problem is the look of the uni-directional fiber is not as pretty. People seem to like the weave look. So many times the nice weave under clearcoat is just a "cosmetic" upper layer (real carbon fiber, but with the weave for looks). There is no way just from seeing the outer layer that you can know how the other layers underneath are oriented.... For what it is worth...my experience with SA has been very good.|
Jan 9, 2004 10:58 PM
|That's why I was asking to see if someone could tell me about SA cranks. SA cranks will look better on my black frame/mostly black component bike.
But I know for sure that 04 Record cranks are multi directional(you can actually see it on 04 record crank.) I have 03 Record carbon cranks on one of my bike; they are not multi directional.
Jan 9, 2004 4:35 PM
|What do you think about it? I am building up 2 bikes; the second bike doesn't deserve $400+ handle bar(it is more of everyday bike) but I was thinking about ITM carbon(good price at Texas) or FSA K-Wing, also Stella's Tirreno looking(?) Alum bar is interesting. I have a Easton the red carbon bar on a bike; I like the feel but don't care for the ergo bends on the top.|
Jan 9, 2004 9:39 PM
|I was looking at the Tirreno and K-Wing also, and because of Stella Azzurra's sizing, or lack thereof, I went with FSA. I've had them for about a month and I absolutely love them. They are beautifully finished, dampen road vibration well, and provide all the comfort of flat top bars. I had the Cinelli Integralter bar-stem before and really wanted the flat top, and these more than meet my needs. Couldn't be happier.
Now, even if the Tirreno came in my size, I don't know if I could of justified spending twice the dough on them. I'm not sure how much more you can get for that much money. Hope that helps.
Jan 9, 2004 10:29 PM
|I had actually purchased the Stella Azzurra carbon bars (I don't remember the model) but I cancelled the order because I thought $300+ was too much for handlebars- even for a Colnago C-50.
I bought a set of the FSA K-Force bars. I haven't built it up yet but the bars are light and beautiful in a CF kind of way.
Jan 9, 2004 10:45 PM
|I suppose I'll start with K-Wing first and check it out before I fork over $400 since I need one for 2nd bike anyway. They are almost same, at least visually, except for the finger grooves on the top bar of Tirreno.|
|can't tell you about those bars...but sa ROCKS||Bonked|
Jan 10, 2004 9:36 AM
|i have the brianza bar and visa versa stem, which i love because i have never seen someone else with one (except when the navigators came to town). however, their customer service is top notch. i was installing my stem and stripped one of the screws. on a whim i sent an email to sa's customer service center from their website never expecting to hear back. i ended up with a response within 24 hours and a complete set of new bolts fedexed to my front door from europe (that must have cost a pretty penny) for free! that certainly turned me into a believer and i don't know that i will ever buy a stem/bar from another manufacturer.|| |