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Carbon they work?(10 posts)

Carbon they work?rubbertoes
Jan 5, 2004 11:21 AM
I am considering some Kestrel carbon handlebars. I do get some wrist/hand problems occasionaly. Do they make much difference over aluminum? My current setup is a Kestrel 200sci frame w/ EMS fork, Profile Stiffy stem and 3TTT forma 2 bars.
Save a bunch of money and buy better gloves instead. nm.russw19
Jan 5, 2004 12:49 PM
Yep or the new Specialized Bar gel and tapeDave Hickey
Jan 5, 2004 1:27 PM
I forgot what they call it, but their bar gel is great. It's 4 pieces of gel (2.4mm or 4.5mm thick), that attaches to the bar and the tape is wrapped over the gel pads. I've been using it on my winter bike and the stuff is great....
I love the Specialized Bar Phat!Coolhand
Jan 6, 2004 6:20 AM
I have it on my road and cross bike- its so cushy and adds very little weight. I was looking at carbon bars, but wanted to keep my expensive custom Ti one bolt stem, so I needed to stick with an Al bar (picked up a 3T Prima 199). With the bar Phat its really comfortable- especially on long base mile slogs.


BTW, your local Specialized Dealer should have some- if not my LBS has some.
in several waysDougSloan
Jan 5, 2004 1:48 PM
I have had the Kestrel EMS bars for over 20,000 miles. They are profoundly stiff, and can cut road buzz a bit compared to aluminum (true of any carbon vs. metal tubing).

However, the reason I like them most is that the failure mode for carbon fiber typically is a gradual weakening before breaking, whereas aluminum can be catastrophic without warning. I know, as I'm handling a product liability suit right now for a rider who broke his neck in a crash when his TTT Prima 220 bars failed.

The Kestrel bars have a lifetime warranty, too, I think; I doubt you'll get that with any aluminum bars.

Also, the Kestrel is plenty stiff in the regular diameter; no need for 31 mm bars to get adequate stiffness.

The Specialized gel pads work well, too. I have them on 2 bikes.

re: product liability suit -> is this the guy from DMD ?PeterRider
Jan 5, 2004 9:32 PM
yes nmDougSloan
Jan 6, 2004 7:34 AM
re: Carbon they work?lyleseven
Jan 5, 2004 8:52 PM
Carbon bars have more benefit over aluminum (not that its much) than, say carbon seatposts v. aluminum. I have a set of Eastons and they are more comfortable with same gel tape than my Dedas.
Jan 6, 2004 5:34 AM
Carbon bars won't help the problem you're having. More likely a setup problem, like improper placement of the brake levers, improper reach, saddle placement or a lack of fitness causing too much weight on the hands.
NO...Woof the dog
Jan 6, 2004 11:18 AM
also, just plain wrong hand placement on the bar can cause problems. I know someone who rides with his hands on the bends (right before the hoods), so that just puts pressure onto the middle of your hand where the nerve is. He resorts to two layers of cork tape and gloves. What could be more stupid than that?

Russ is right, get thicker gloves if you are not willing to change your hand position or position on the bike, like c40 said.

rough rough

woof, the best dog ever.