|shamano tiagra grouppo||ariesceltic|
Dec 20, 2003 1:33 PM
|Would someone pleae let me know about the tiagra group. I need to know if it is good and is it compatible with other shamano groups such as the 105. I have only riden with Campy so am not familar with Shamano products.|
Dec 20, 2003 2:19 PM
|All 9-speed shimano parts are compatible, but Tiagra is not for the serious rider. Stick with 105 or Ultegra if you log many miles.|
|Tiagra put the ZZZZZZZZING back in my love life||AllUpHill|
Dec 20, 2003 11:42 PM
|(cue that sound you hear on wheel of fortune when they land on the bankruptcy wedge) |
I guess I'm not a serious rider because I happily rode my Tiagra group (sans hubs) for just over 3 years before seeing its first failure. Unsure of the mileage, but it must have been 15 - 20,000. This was without replacing so much as a chain or cassette. That's exceptional, probably beyond what most users would enjoy for such a cheap group (or any group), but it does say something. It probably helped, in my case, that everything was well installed by my LBS and well lubed/maintained, although I ride this bike in the rain a bit. I find the shifting good -- 90% of the crispness and precision of my dura ace.
The problem, by the way, was the right shifter which suddenly quit shifting to a smaller cog "just riding along." I did an autopsy and it appeared some tiny part inside had just worn down. The rest of the group is still plugging along (actually, I just replaced the chain and cassette as preventative maintenance).
Again YMMV. My case is probably not typical.
|Seems to work fine for me...||torquecal|
Dec 21, 2003 6:15 AM
|Have Tiagra triple set up on one bike, two years, about just under 3,000 miles on it with no problems whatsoever.
I did put 105 on my new bike, but that was mainly because it was easier to order than Tiagra.
|It's OK, but consider this since you ride Campy||haystack|
Dec 21, 2003 1:21 PM
|What about one of the new lower end Campy groups. I just purchased a full black Shimano 105 group for a rebuild project for my wife and son. Then I came across the Campy Xenon($274.99), Mirage(374.99) or even Veloce(514.99)groups at RepartoCorse.com and wish I came across them earlier. I ride both Campagnolo Veloce and both Shimano Ultegra/XT gruppos and wouldn't go below 105 in a Shimano group. I don't have any experience with the new, lower end Xenon and Mirage Campy groups, but I do ride Veloce and I personally would rather have an inexpensive Campy group. I don't know why, maybe because I've seen seriously cheapo Shimano components (below Tiagra) on $100-200 dollar bikes at Wal-Mart, Target, Toys-R-Us, etc., but never Campagnolo. To me, that says alot.|
|It's OK, but consider this since you ride Campy||Crankist|
Dec 22, 2003 8:38 AM
|"maybe because I've seen seriously cheapo Shimano components (below Tiagra) on $100-200 dollar bikes at Wal-Mart, Target, Toys-R-Us, etc., but never Campagnolo. To me, that says alot."
To me it says Shimano also makes cheap stuff, nothing more.
What are some of your insights?
Dec 22, 2003 7:39 PM
|no. Consider this an analogy between 2004 Shimano Dura-Ace and Campy Chorus. It's on par with the difference between the two car companies Porsche and Chevrolet. Both make 55k dollar sports cars. Porsche makes exclusive, expensive cars and has no plans on producing a cheap car for the masses. They offer something to this consumer. Chevrolet offers the 55k dollar Corvette as it's flagship sports car, but also offers many lower models in different price ranges to meet most price points, including entry level vehicles.
I'll ASSume Campagnolo has chosen to forgo the extreme entry level in favor of their high standards, perhaps like Porsche. Maybe it's their inability to meet Shimano's level of production, etc. like Chevrolet.