|Poll: Easiest and hardest rim to build? Brand & model...||TFerguson|
Dec 10, 2003 8:44 AM
|I'm trying to determine if there is a consistency in quality across brands or brand/models of rims. It seems that the easiest wheels to build are those where the rims are round and true to start with. It also seems that a significant component of a "good build" is the compromise between even tension and compensating for poor rims.
|Easiest- WTB Laserdisc, Hardest Sun DS1-XC (both MTB) (nm)||TFerguson|
Dec 10, 2003 8:45 AM
|re: Poll: Easiest and hardest rim to build? Brand & model...||Chen2|
Dec 11, 2003 7:31 AM
|I agree with your post and would add that wheels with more spokes are easier to build than those with fewer spokes because they offer better control when truing. My experience is that 36 spoke wheels true better and stay true longer than 32 or fewer spoke wheels. Of course there are some performance compromises, and for the most part I ride wheels with 32 or fewer spokes.|
|re: Poll: Easiest and hardest rim to build? Brand & model...||MShaw|
Dec 11, 2003 10:14 AM
|Biggest PITA: Zipp 404s and 303s (tie) They build up well, but getting the spokes in to build them sucks!
Old box-section lightweight tubulars can be "interesting" too. Little differences in spoke tension pulls the rims out of true very easily.
Easiest: Deep Vs, CXP30s, etc.
I like building with MA2s and MA40s, OPs (well, Reflex rims anyway), Velocity Escapes and Aeroheads. The dual eyelet rims seem to be a little easier to true and tension than the non-eyeletted rims.
My idea of a good build is a wheel that stays round and true. You can make any of the above a bad wheel just as easy as you can make it a good wheel. It depends on the builder, not the parts.
|re: Poll: Easiest and hardest rim to build? Brand & model...||torquecal|
Dec 11, 2003 5:01 PM
|Agree - Velocity Deep Vs and Mavic CXP33s are pretty easy builds.|
|I think a Zipp disc would be pretty hard ;-) nm||DougSloan|
Dec 11, 2003 10:31 AM
|Sun rims usually get complains||cyclopathic|
Dec 11, 2003 2:23 PM
|I've heard from many wheel builders. They come slightly bent/out of true and it takes more time to true. Never been problem for me, I only build once in a while, and it is usually a few hours/6-pack affair. Besides I will spent another 1/2hr truing after your avg LBS grease monkey anyways.
Rims themselves are plenty strong, reasonably light and tension on final wheels as uniform as on any Mavic rim I had build. However, if I can help it I avoid Suns they're hard to put/pull off road tire, I broke quite a few levers.
have you decided on spokes/hubs/lacing yet?
|Sun Rhyno Lites||Spoke Wrench|
Dec 12, 2003 6:34 PM
|I think that Rhyno Lites are the easiest rims that I have ever laced up. I have a couple of sons who like to do big drop offs on their mountain bikes so I can attest that they produce very tough wheels. Unfortunately they also require the use of your entire vocabulary to change tires.|| |