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Trying to decide on race wheels(9 posts)

Trying to decide on race wheelscollegiateryder
Dec 7, 2003 10:48 PM
Hey all,

im trying to figure out which wheels i want to pick up this xmas for the race season.
im considering the ksyrium SSC SL's which appear to be a more all around wheelset, the Zipp 303's which also appear to be good for climbing and give a slight aero advantage, and the spinergy Tillium Carbo SS's which are just straight aero wheels. ill be racing in crits andlonger road races.

any racing experience with these wheels?

thanks in advance
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsWoof the dog
Dec 8, 2003 4:54 AM
think bumpy crits
think crashing
think cold temperatures, near slush and 40 degree drenching rain when no amount of garbage bags help you keep dry or warm.

i would choose ksyriums any day. If you are not a cat 1 and not riding a time trial, it won't be the wheels that hold you back, unless of course they fall apart 2 miles down the road.

woof the god.
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsSchvonzie
Dec 8, 2003 1:20 PM
I would take the Spinergies off your list. The wheels are poor quality backed by an even poorer factory support. The 303's are awesome wheels, but 1 crash and they will probably be gone. I would go with the Ksyriums if you are going to use these wheels all the time. I would roll the 303's for road race's only, and use your training wheels in the crits anyway.
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsMShaw
Dec 9, 2003 10:06 AM
I haven't ridden the Spinergy wheels personally, but I hear that they're not the best thing for crits. Flexy in the wrong ways.

I'm going to put my plug in for the Ritchey Pro or WCS wheels depending on whether you're over or under 160#. I have a pair of Pro wheels. Very nice. Not as fast as my Cosmics, but a heck of a lot easier to get up to speed. As an added bonus, if you look around, you may be able to find a pair for dirt cheap. I saw that Supergo had a takeoff pair for $99!

If you're going to spend the money on Zipp wheels, buy the 404s. Much more aero and the little extra weight isn't going to hurt too much in the hills.

I've ridden Ks a grand total of one time. Can't really tell you anything about them except that they felt like wheels.

I have a friend that swears by his Velomax wheels. I haven't ridden these either. I've heard good things from more than just him.

Mike
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsWoof the dog
Dec 9, 2003 4:27 PM
i've seen people ride and crash these POS Ritchey wheels. Stay away. shooo!
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsMShaw
Dec 9, 2003 6:23 PM
You mean ride them (Ritcheys?) and the wheel fails? or ride them and fall off and go boom?

If you're talking about the latter, weeellll, you obviously haven't ridden with me yet... The nice thing about my Ritcheys is that they fall into the category of "I can afford to replace them, so I can race them."

If you're talking about the former, well, I'll take my chances. I'm riding the Pros, not the WCS wheels. That 16/20 spoking really scares me at 180#-ish.

Mike
The obligatory plugKerry Irons
Dec 8, 2003 6:05 PM
Since the other posters are pushing you toward the Ks, now you have to think about the fact that a well-built conventional wheel (Record or DA hubs w/Velocity Aerohead or MAVIC Open Pro) will be just as strong, just as durable, just as light, easier to maintain, and a few $100 cheaper. No trick factor, but just as good a wheel as a Ksyrium.
The obligatory plugWoof the dog
Dec 8, 2003 10:50 PM
agree, though some people may like it trick... because "they love bikes"

pfffffffffffff

woof.
re: Trying to decide on race wheelsGhisallo 1
Dec 10, 2003 9:55 PM
I just got a set of the 303 clinchers yesterday. Will also be lucky enough to get a set of the new Ksyrium's closer to spring. Mavic is one of our team sponsors so I can not pass up the chance to get a set at a great price. I started out last year with a set of the SL's and was not crazy about them. They were super stiff but I liked the feel of my Dura Ace 7700's better. I used these for both training and racing and have put almost 5000 miles on them. They are a little heavier but have been trouble free. I plan on using the Zipps primarily for road racing since they are a little fragile. If you can stand the hassle, get the 303's in tubular and drop almost a full pound off the Ksyrium clinchers.