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Record '04 vs DA '04 weights(12 posts)

Record '04 vs DA '04 weightsdivve
Nov 28, 2003 5:50 AM
Just published in the German Tour magazine and posted by Nino on MTBr weight board:

DA 10s weights:
r-derailleur: 181g
f-derailleur (2 chainrings,braze-on): 73g
STI levers: 422g
brakes f+r: 313g (they are much stronger and stiffer than the previous ones!)
crankset/BB: 751g (they measured the same stiffness than actual 9s version! just 14% stiffer than Campa record carbon)
f-hub: 130g
r-hub: 263g
f-QR: 60g
r-QR: 64g
cassette: 169g (gear spacing Shimano 3.95mm / Campa 4.16mm so not compatible!)
chain: 278g (116 links 5.9mm wide)

total DA 10s weight is : 2712g

Campagnolo Record 2004:
r-derailleur: 186g
f-derailleur: 69g
ergopower shift/brakelever: 328g
brakes f+r: 311g
crankset: 578g
BB: 191g
f-hub: 127g
r-hub: 257g
f-QR: 63g
r-QR: 68g
cassette: 189g
chain: 279g (soon available Campas own hollowpin chain...-20g!)

total weight: 2665g
re: Record '04 vs DA '04 weightsaltidude
Nov 28, 2003 7:16 AM
That whopping 47 gram difference sure will make you ride faster too. Better get that holow pin chain as well, no way you could do a climb without it. ROTFLMAO, you mindless weight weenines are a funny bunch. Never mind the extra pounds on my carcass, but ohhh thgat hollow pin chain makes me faster Gomer.
re: Record '04 vs DA '04 weightsdivve
Nov 28, 2003 7:49 AM
First, if you paid a little more attention to what you're reading instead of yourself, you would have noticed that I didn't type it. Second, again, some attention is required, weight weenies don't ride. Everyone knows that:) Finally, and the most important factor, you're really barking up the wrong tree in your reply to me. I could care less what anyone thinks of my crap....if I did I wouldn't for instance continue to buy Cannondale frames. Also, I don't buy stuff in order to go faster. I buy stuff because I like to have it. I'm fully content in owning whatever I think is good, regardless of third party pimp factor.
re: Record '04 vs DA '04 weightsasgelle
Nov 28, 2003 4:01 PM
You might also note the original post made no editorial comment about the meaning of the weight differential. He posted the data and let it speak for itself. It's interesting that you chose to interpret the post as showing a preference for the lighter set because it would be faster when there is no such statement in the text. I read the data as saying there was no significant weight difference between the two groups.
Any chance you could either lighten up or shut up?Kerry Irons
Nov 28, 2003 5:52 PM
Man, your attitude is getting old. Post after post, thread after thread. Yap, yap, yap. You've got some useful things to say, but always cloaking it in vitriol really is not getting you anywhere. Give it a rest.
Any chance you could either lighten up or shut up?altidude
Nov 28, 2003 11:14 PM
I dropped by this board about 18 months ago and you were here. Any chance you could get a life and stop living in here on a continuing basis year after year? Well, we all know the answer to that question. LOL
Dear altidude, just get off this board and seek some help!glia
Nov 28, 2003 9:58 AM
You are more a nuisance than anything else to this board. Every post I have seen has been demeaning and belittling aimed at hurting others. Just let people exchange their thoughts in peace. You sure need some professional help!
Dear altidude, just get off this board and seek some help!Woof the dog
Nov 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Altitude, I will kill you. I know where you live. How could you insult those who care about weight? What an insolence!

Lock your doors
Board your windows

Me and others are gonna kill you with sharpened lightweight carbon chainrings!


Woof the dog.
Dear altidude, just get off this board and seek some help!altidude
Nov 28, 2003 11:12 PM
Yawn. all you delusional clowns are the ones who need help, serious help. you know who you are. The idiots with the mediocre engines who actually believe buying a stupid carbon rear derailleur and shaving a whopping 30 grams off you bike is somehow gonna make any real difference getting your fat arses to the top of any climb. Or the idiot who rides along at 20 mph's with his Zipp 404's thining he ridiculously has somehow bought a meaningful performance enhancing piece of equipment when in reality he's just fooling himself, herself or itself.

It's pretty comical though listening to all the gabbers in here babble on and on about their wheels, their carbon components while riding with their mediocre engine. Similiar to the clown who shows up for the weekend round of golf, can't hit a ball to save his life, but plays with $2000 Callaways and a $400 putter. ROTFLMAO

Keep trying to buy performance delusional clowns. Perhaps someday your shrink will help you deal with cycling reality. Then again, most of you are so hopelessly deluded with your gram countiung of equipment and wild exagerrated benefits of aero wheels, your're probably beyond help at this point. LOL
Posters, attention!!! They come and they go.....Lone Gunman
Nov 29, 2003 8:10 AM
The contributors of this forum have dealt with turds like altidude/scorpianking in the past, I/we ignore his posts and do not respond to his personal attack nonsense and sooner or later he dries up and blows away into cyberspace or chokes on his own venomspew and thats the end of him. Or he manages on his own to get himself banned from the board.
re: Record '04 vs DA '04 weightsil sogno
Nov 29, 2003 8:26 PM
Interesting comparison. Weightwise, the difference is about the equivalent of a candy bar. I guess the choice is now down to the amount of change in your pocket, the comfort of the shift/brake levers on your hands, and your personal aesthetic sense. Then, of course, there's the reliability factor. Is the new Dura-Ace bottom bracket more bombproof than the old one? Or is it still the tweaky, hyper-sensitive (if insanely smooth if properly set up) bottom bracket of old?
So much for the new DA...PsyDoc
Dec 1, 2003 5:11 AM
...being up to 1/2 pound lighter than Campy. Oh well.