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Ultegra vs Dura Ace.(5 posts)

Ultegra vs Dura Ace.BrianU
Nov 22, 2003 6:23 PM
I plan to treat myself to a new set of wheels this Christmas. I am currently running a set of Rolf Vectors that came on my 2001 Lemond Buenos Aires and would like to replace them with something with better bearings and a little lighter. I weigh 155 and although I do not race, I do get in an occasional fast paced group ride. I also commute to work most of the year, averaging between 150 and 200 miles a week, so durability is a consideration. I am leaning towards Colorado Cyclist due to the luck I have had with a set of mtb wheels they built for me a couple years ago. They have been absolutely bombproof.
Right now, I figure Open Pro rims laced to either Ultegra or Dura Ace hubs with 15 gauge spokes. My question is, in your opinion, how much of a difference would I notice between the Ultegra and Dura Ace hubs. Also, any recommendations on spoke size and count?
Any opinions and recommendations will be appreciated.

re: Ultegra vs Dura Ace.Dave Hickey
Nov 22, 2003 7:47 PM
Ultegra are fine hubs but Open Pro/Dura Ace wheels can be bought for $260-$300. IMHO, for the money, they are the best wheels on the market. I weigh the same as you and I use 32 hole.
How much piece of mind do you want?Nessism
Nov 22, 2003 10:35 PM
I've owned lots of wheels similar to what you are looking at. For someone your weight, 28 hole is fine. I suggest 15/16 front and non-drive side rear, 14/15 drive side rear, brass nipples all around. There is no advantage to running heavy spokes on the non-drive rear since the tension is very low there.

If you want something a little tougher, go 32 hole.

If you want something tougher yet, go with 15 gauge spokes on front.

You could even use Revolution spokes in place of the 15/16's but they are a little delicate in my opinion. Just make sure to use brass nipples.

As far as the hubs go, DA bearings are noticable smoother (when holding the axle in your hand and spinning the wheel). In actual riding usage, I doubt you would notice the difference. Another thing, the DA freehub body is more precise and wobbles less. Again, I'm not sure you will notice any difference on the road. That said, I would go with DA. Very pretty and smooth. In two years from now when you are still riding the wheels, the difference in money spent will be long forgotten.

Good luck.

Ultegra will last longer (nm)Alexx
Nov 24, 2003 6:30 AM
The best price if you go Ultegra....PeterRider
Nov 24, 2003 10:01 AM
... is most likely at Performance. 199$ - 20% current coupon. They used to have the D/A-open pros, but I just checked and they don't seem to have them any more. Have no idea about the quality of the build though.