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Ksyrium SLs vs. Bontrager X-Lites(9 posts)

Ksyrium SLs vs. Bontrager X-LitesJive Turkey
Nov 13, 2003 8:38 AM
I am trying to upgrade my road bike and make it lighter. Is there any reason to pick one wheelset over the other. I've seen some good deals on both out there. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Which one did you like the ride of better?russw19
Nov 13, 2003 1:01 PM
They are the same weight for either set. 1490 grams. Mavic is heavier in front, but lighter in rear, but total weight is the same. You seem to only be considering that as a factor, so ride both and pick from there.

Have you riden each of these wheels, as well as others? There are lighter wheels on the market in this price range.. you should do your homework and narrow it down (if you haven't already) and then ride the remaining candidates and choose from there.

But as for advice... I have riden both, didn't like either that much to spend the money on them, but that's just me. I think there are better wheels out there, but that's another thread for another time. You will find more people who will tell you to ride the Mavics as they are the most popular boutique wheel on the market, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they are any better or worse than the Bontragers. The Bontragers use normal spokes. If you break one, a black DT Revolution works just fine as a replacement. They use bladed spokes on them, but not proprietary spokes like the Kysriums. To be fair, in an emergency you can use any spoke on the K's too, but if you are the type to break spokes, price a Ksyrium spoke sometime, it's an eye opener.

On top of that, the Bontragers can claim to have won a Tour de France and a Vuelta, Ksyriums can not. But then I am also not convinced USPS would have chosen the Bonty's if they weren't sponsored by them. So take that at face value.

Which one did you like the ride of better?gabaguy
Nov 13, 2003 9:35 PM
You do realize there was zero information in your reply, right?
Aw, come on, I found it to be useful.Drone 5200
Nov 13, 2003 10:11 PM
At least, it's more useful than what you posted.

I'm considering the same thing. Like the looks of the new silver K's. But would like to keep consistent with the Bontrager stuff. So I dunno.
Which one did you like the ride of better?russw19
Nov 14, 2003 7:57 AM
Hey moron, post something better or shut the hell up.

There is plenty in that reply... first, there is little in the original post to go on... the original post focuses soley on weight... each pair of K's and the Bonty's are the exact same. So there is no difference if that's all you are after.

The original post says nothing about which ride better, which would be the most important factor in any wheel. My advice to the original poster is to at least ride the pair before making a decision. That's the best help anyone can give someone who in their post (no offence to Jive Turkey) shows absolutely no knowledge of either wheelset. If you have never riden them, how can anyone explain it to you with it making as much sense as if you had riden them?

Do you realize that not only was your post less informative than mine, but you look like a pretentious ass for posting what you did? Grow up and get off mommy and daddy's computer, 3rd grade is calling your name.

Go away little troll, I just searched the board and couldn't find a single post by you where you actually had any helpful information for anyone about anything.

Not so sure about that 1490 gram weight for Ksyrium'sK-Man
Nov 14, 2003 7:09 AM
Mavic list their 2002 and 2003 weights for the Ksyrium SSC SL @ 1530 grams..."ACTUAL" weights were 1600 grams plus. There was a post a few weeks ago abot the 2004 still being 1600+ grams. Mavic is pretty natorious for grossly underestimating its weights on wheelsets. I should be picking up my new bike tonight or tomorrow with a set of 04 Ksyrium SSC SL, I will take actual weights and post on Monday. I am also having a custom wheelset built up by Mike G @ and the weight should target in at 1486 grams. King hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes, DT R1.1 rim, 28 hold. Lighter & cheaper...I will have a chance to ride both wheels to get a comparison between the two. I plan on selling the Ksyrium's.

Not so sure about that 1490 gram weight for Ksyrium'srussw19
Nov 14, 2003 8:03 AM
The 2004 weights are pretty close to that claimed figure. Close enough that the difference could just be differences in manufacturing lot runs. They redid the rear hub and it's quite a bit lighter, as well as made slight changes to the rim over the last model.

We have a pair in the shop I work at and on our triple balance I read the pair of K's at 1505 (w/o skewers) and the Bonty's at 1501 (no skewer) so they are just about the same or close enough to it to say so. Even if the calibration on our scale is wrong, the two are about equal. If that means they are equal at 1525 grams, that may be, but they are about the same.

Nov 14, 2003 6:25 PM
IMHO the Ksyriums are a stronger wheel, almost bomb-proof.
Nov 24, 2003 9:17 PM
Considering how much the rims weigh on those lead anchors they should be bombproof. 1490 grams? If you believe that you'll also believe I have some great swampland for sale in FL for you. Mavics reported wheel weights are about as truthful as a politician soliciting some funds with campaign promises.