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replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headset(13 posts)

replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetroadcycle
Nov 1, 2003 4:36 AM
Hi there,

Intending to replace the Cane Creek S-2 on my Klein Quantum Race with a new Chris King Nothreadset - both headsets are 1 1/8".
I'd much aprreciate advice from those who did the same on any technical issue regarding the headset replacment, specially overcoming the differnce in the stack heights of the headsets (C Creek = 26 mm, C King = 31.4 mm) and frame preparation.
Also how much did it improve handling, durability and maintanance ?

Thanks very much,
re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetRusty Coggs
Nov 1, 2003 6:44 AM
If you have an extra 5mm spacer or more in your current setup the extra stack height is no problem.Just remove enough spacer height to make it right.If there are no extra spacers, the steerer will be a bit sort,but still long enough that there will be no issue. I would not replace a HS till what was on the bike was shot. I have CKs and just about everything else.They tend to be install and forget,but otherwise function like a HS.
re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetlyleseven
Nov 1, 2003 7:55 AM
I agree. You won't feel or sense a difference with a Cane Creek or CK. You may get more mileage out of a CK without maintenance, but even then you are talking about a lot of miles on a Cane Creek before it needs replacement.
re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetdgangi
Nov 1, 2003 6:12 PM
Agree here as well. Why replace a functional headset with another one? Chris King's are, IMHO, the best headsets you can buy. But that's because they last -- you install and forget those.

But when both are fully operational, the Cane Creek will work just as well as the CK...CK's are just more durable so they last a lot longer. So keep your Cane Creek until it croaks...and then install a CK.

And who knows...the Cane Creek headset just may outlast your ownership of the bike. It's not like Cane Creak headsets are junk...

So how long should a good HS last?AJS
Nov 1, 2003 8:16 PM
I mean, I can't remember ever having worn out a HS, but then I haven't kept the same bike for longer than 3 or 4 years, and used only Cane Creek, King, or Campy (except for the Ritchey I have now).
Forever!the bull
Nov 1, 2003 8:43 PM
Because the day it wears out, it is not a good headset, now is it?
See post below (nm)AJS
Nov 2, 2003 6:39 AM
So how long should a good HS last?dgangi
Nov 1, 2003 9:00 PM
If you own a bike for only 3 or 4 years, then most any reputable brand headset will work -- King, FSA, Ritchey, Cane Creek. The stresses on a road bike headset are not all that great. And with 1 1/8 headsets on road bikes now, the distribution of those minor stresses across the bearings are even less, so the headset should last a LONG time.

A MTB is an entirely different story. The constant pounding and brake torque on the front of a MTB is enough to beat most any headset into submission, except Chris Kings. CK headsets are known in the MTB world the really be the only "install and forget" headset. Others come close, but never match the quality of a King. And that's why they cost $100+ when all other brands are much cheaper. You get what you pay for...

I'm not talking about MTB's...AJS
Nov 2, 2003 6:38 AM
...'cause this is a roadie forum.

Anyway, my question was rhetorical - point being that I doubt wearing out a headset is something most road bikers need to worry about.
Nov 2, 2003 12:32 PM
...and that's why I said that any headset from a reputable brand should last a LONG time on a road bike. The stress a headset endures on a road bike isn't that great. Only on mountain bikes are stress forces on a headset severe enough to be a concern.

re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetEl Caballito
Nov 2, 2003 11:26 AM
I also believe you should hang on to the cane creek until it falls apart, which should'nt be any time soon. Yes, the CK is bomb proof and has the cool factor, but the cane creek will also do the job. I've had a cane creek on my Klein for three years now and never have I touch it, other than polish it.
my 2 cents.
re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetroadcycle
Nov 3, 2003 1:09 PM
Hi again,

So far I am satisfied with the Cane Creek headset.
It was tightened once when the bike was new and afterwards about once / twice a year - (I have ~2,800 km on the bike in two+ years ).
A Chris King will replace the Cane Creek only when it will need replacement mostly because its renowned durability + the 10 year warranty + it's "cool factor", although Cane Creek is as well a quality and nicely designed headset.

Thanks for the advice.
It's allways a pleasure to exchange opinions with you people.
re: replacing cane creek heaset with a chris king headsetlyleseven
Nov 3, 2003 3:49 PM
At 1400km a year that Cane Creek will likely wear out about 2020!