Oct 28, 2003 8:32 PM
|i am looking toreplace my stem. i need a really stiff quill type 110 size. preferably an older style to match my old de rosa steel frame. has anyone got any suggestions ?|
|re: quill stem||russw19|
Oct 28, 2003 8:43 PM
|Try ebay... for old quills, that's the way to go. I work in a shop and about 3 months ago I was looking for an older quill stem for my Eddy Merckx.. I couldn't find anything except on ebay.
|re: quill stem||Rusty Coggs|
Oct 29, 2003 6:19 AM
|Did you look in the QBP catalogue?|
|re: quill stem||russw19|
Oct 29, 2003 9:01 AM
|Trust me Rusty, I looked everywhere. All QBP stocks is the removeable faceplate Salsa stem. Looks a bit out of place on a Campy Super Record bike. I even tried Euro-America. They list the ITM Krystal, which I would have bought, but it's not in stock in my size. That's the cool ITM Ti stem. I tried Oschner, BTI, Hawley, Quality, Sinclair Imports... and a few more...
|re: yikes||Rusty Coggs|
Oct 29, 2003 9:33 AM
|Is my 2002 version that out of date? It at least had some examples from Nitto and TTT.Rivendell is another source but are pricier than most others.|
|yep...harder and harder to come by these days..||russw19|
Oct 29, 2003 9:52 AM
|I could find a few cheap Nitto stems and that ulgy Salsa SUL stem, but not really that much is still available. Not from the bigger wholesalers that is... some of the smaller ones may still have stuff lying around, but it's just as easy to find something like that on ebay. More and more people every day are taking old bikes and buying a carbon fork and converting to threadless... makes them easy to find used on the bay, but new.. that's another story.
All that Quality has are the Salsa stems, Aluminium Dimension stems that are ugly, Nitto super high rise stems, Profile H2O stems, and Kalloy stems which are all crazy rise-angle stems.
Nothing worth putting on a nice road bike.
By the way, if you want one, when the 2004 Consumer QBP catalogs come out, I can get you one.
|especially nice looking ones||rufus|
Oct 29, 2003 11:30 AM
|that aren't tig welded or horribly oversize.
i guess you can always go with nitto, but their stuff is usually quite a bit heavier than most.
|Rivendell has several; Nitto's not heavy for the strength||Cory|
Oct 29, 2003 4:19 PM
|If I weighed 120, I'd probably think Nitto's stuff was heavy, but I'm a Clydesdale who's actually twisted a stem in half on a climb. Give me an extra ounce every time if it will keep that from happening again. But Riv has several quill stems, including their own lugged one (way too expensive, but it's an interesting idea). Check www.rivbike.com|
|I buy Cinelli XA stems on Ebay all the time||Dave Hickey|
Oct 29, 2003 5:44 PM
|I'm a big fan of XA stems. I've paid anywhere from $10-30 for XA stems on Ebay. Of course most are 26.4 clamps but I really like Giro bars also|
|I have one...||C-40|
Oct 29, 2003 6:46 AM
|I have a very good condition TTT "Synthesis" (silver finish)in a 110mm length. I don't know if it meets your definition of "really stiff", but it's a very nice looking traditional stem. Used it on the Tommasini Sintesi that I owned.
Yours for $15, delivered in the U.S. I'll certainly never use it. Switched to threadless 5 years ago.
|good deal if it's your size.||desmo|
Oct 30, 2003 9:09 PM
|I have a couple of these I'm hoarding, It's a nice stem. I had one on my race bike for a couple of years, plenty stiff, held the bar, and did not creak.|
|I think I have||toomanybikes|
Oct 29, 2003 6:50 AM
|an Old Cinelli 1X in that size.
If you can't find anything on ebay let me know, we can probably work something out.
|i ordered a couple last week||rufus|
Oct 29, 2003 8:39 AM
|from deesidecycles.com. they're in the uk, and had cinelli xa and 3ttt synthesis available, among others. they emailed me and said they'd order them for me, so i guess they may not have them in stock, but they have a source for them somewhere.|
|re: quill stem||MShaw|
Oct 29, 2003 10:28 AM
|Have you checked at your LBS lately? I know B&L in Solana Beach has a basket of take offs, as do most of the shops that have been around a while.
I found that a good, stiff, fairly light stem was the ITM Eclypse. I've bought several over the years.
I can still remember switching from a forged Specialized to a Syncros... The guy that sold it to me warned me to be careful sprinting on the new Sycnros the first few times or I'd lever my wheel out from underneath me. No problem, I've been riding for X years now, I won't have a problem.
First sprint that I really torqued on the bars like I did with the Specialized stem was a real eye opener! I about tore the bike out from underneath me! Serious pucker factor for a second or so!
After that I got used to the way it rode.
The point of my story is that the ITM Eclypse stems I bought after my Syncros were about as stiff, but a lot less expensive.
Man those old forged stems were noodles!
|not an old-style one, but..||dotkaye|
Oct 29, 2003 11:36 AM
|nashbar has the ITM Modulo Q in 110 on sale for $20
it's not bad-looking. I'm thinking I should buy a few just in case..
|re: quill stem||dncreager|
Oct 29, 2003 9:37 PM
|I think a Cinelli XA or 1A stem would be great for an old DeRosa. Stay away from the 1R which has reliability issues. The older Cinelli Stems have a 26.4 diameter so you would need to use 26.4 Cinelli bars with them. These stems are available on ebay all the time.|
Oct 30, 2003 7:18 AM
|There are tons of old quill stems for sale on eBay all the time. You should be able to pick one up for $20 no problem. |
Personally, I like the Salsa SUL quill stem. It took me a while to get used to it, but it's got nice utilitarian styling. After using stems with removable face-caps, I would never go back to the old style. I've got better things to do than spend 2 hours removing bar tape, shifters, etc., just to swap a stem. With a removable face-cap, it takes 5 minutes.
If you're stuck on a classic styled quill stem, and don't want to buy off eBay, you can probably pick up a new one at any of these web sites: www.aebike.com, www.bikeusa.com, or www.rivendellbicycles.com
|my order from deeside arrived yesterday.||rufus|
Oct 31, 2003 8:32 AM
|two brand new cinelli xa stems, 26.0 stem clamp, 12cm. i also have a 12cm and 11cm 3ttt synthesis stems i got from excel when they were closing them out a year or so ago. so i may be set for quill stems for the foreseeable future, although i may grab a couple more just to hoard.
the 3ttt record 84(my all-time favorite stem, it's just beautiful) will come off my current bike and onto the new mondonico. i'll put one of the synthesis stems on my old bike, and save the xa's for future bikes, like the cinelli super corsa i'd like to get someday.
|re: quill stem||merlint3|
Oct 31, 2003 10:56 AM
|How much was the XA stem from Deeside? shipping/ customs? Thanks|
|i dunno, it was in some kind of foreign currency. ;)||rufus|
Oct 31, 2003 7:19 PM
|actually, they were 22.5 pounds, which i figure is around $33. actually, it's less cause they subtracted the VAT tax from my order shipped to the US. my total order was 84 pounds, and they subtracted 12.51 from that, or roughly three pounds per item, so the actual price is probably closer to $29. they've also got the 3ttt synthesis available, which is about 4 pounds less, and also a very nice looking stem. no customs duty as far as i'm aware of.
the only problem with them i have is that there's a bit of roughness along the slot they cut in the bottom part of the quill, the part that's inside the steerer tube. but i figure i can just sand the rough edges away.