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Shimano 105 SPD-Rs on bAss-ackwards?(9 posts)

Shimano 105 SPD-Rs on bAss-ackwards?owmynads
Oct 28, 2003 6:45 PM
Howdy Poetry-Lovers!

I got a pair of Shimano SPD-R 105s, because, in the spring, I'm getting a new bike, and want to go with Dura-Ace SPD-Rs and want to get used to the platform.

I followed the very Japanese-minimalist instructions that came with the pedals, and installed those w/ no problem. Then, I tried to install the cleats. I got out the ruler, measured things down to the millimeter. Everything is fine. I get no hot-spots when pedaling, and I like the platform and the amount of float (only six degrees). The only problem? When I go to clip out, I have to click my heels IN, not OUT to get out. My freind informs me that this is wrong. No pedals should clip out to the inside. So I swapped the cleats (left foot for right, right for left) and kept the orientation with the smaller tab facing front. As far as I can see, I've got everything installed correctly, and I still have to click "IN" to get out.

Any advice for this noob?

-owmynads
re: Shimano 105 SPD-Rs on bAss-ackwards?Ironbutt
Oct 29, 2003 5:07 AM
The cleats are identical, there is no left or right cleat. If you have them installed backwards, that is front to back, you won't be able to engage the cleat in the pedal. Most pedals will release in either direction, just most men prefer to release by clicking their heel out. Many women prefer to release by doing the opposite, due to their hip angle. The motion if rotating the heel inward is actually much more powerful than the other direction. If you want to click out by turning your heel out, be sure that the pedal is at the bottom of the stroke so that you get the most leverage.
re: Shimano 105 SPD-Rs on bAss-ackwards?owmynads
Oct 29, 2003 8:46 AM
I've turned down the tension on the release to almost nothing, and for the life of me, I can't get out of the pedals (at the bottom of the stroke) for the life of me by turning out. In works just fine. I dunno. Me confused. ;|

-owmynads
Sorry to say, they are crap pedalsCrankist
Oct 29, 2003 1:43 PM
Have 'em (Ultegras), sort of hate 'em. And there have been many such complaints on this board - a query will turn something up.
I've done a fair amount of polishing of the cleats which helped; when they are right they're darn good. A small amount of grease on the cleat will also help, but you've got to do it each ride.
Unclipping to the inside can jam a heel into the spokes, definately not recommended. Overall, I'd say these pedals bite. I doubt you'll find the DA any better.
I've since upgraded to the SPD-SLs. It's a much better pedal.
Sorry to say, they are crap pedalsowmynads
Oct 29, 2003 6:38 PM
You've intrigued me. Can you say how the SPD-L's are better than the SPD-Rs? I'd be seriously interested to know. If I go into a new bike next year, I definitely don't want to go into crap pedals.

Thanks.

-owmynads.
Sorry to say, they are crap pedalsCrankist
Oct 30, 2003 9:16 AM
Essentially it's that SLs have none of the unclip problems, but this is no small matter. I also find the SLs easier to clip into - that is they're better balanced for entry side toward the rider. And I like the positive-sounding "snap" as they clip in. Also they don't scuff as easily. Oh, and they're far easier to walk in. SDP-Rs probably have a longer lasting cleat though. Weight I think is comparable. Incidently I picked up an Ultegra SL pr. for $95 shipped from e-bay.
re: Shimano 105 SPD-Rs on bAss-ackwards?FORT-Cyclist
Oct 30, 2003 12:36 AM
I had the same problem, altough it showed up at first after some 2000km.
take a file and smooth the edges of the cleat, maybe that helps.
if you want a spd-r pedal that has easy entry and release too, get the pd-6601 or pd-7701.
not the 6600 or 7700 they have the same problem you described.
just make sure that there is the number "1" at the end of the type name.
Have both the DA and 105 SPD-R pedalsAaronL
Oct 31, 2003 4:23 PM
and I can tell you there is a big difference between the two models.

First, you are supposed to be able to exit the pedal by turning your foot in or out. My guess is the cleat is not tight enough and is twisting when you turn outboard, but not turning (as much) when twisting the foot inboard.

Second, the DA pedal is much, much smoother to get in and out of. I've used these pedals exclusively for the last three years, I avg 8-9K miles per year and these are the best pedals I've ever used. In fact, I'm sad that Shimano discontinued them in favor of the "Lance" pedal. My guess is when the hype over those pedals dies down and people get tired of paying $20+ dollars every few months for cleats they'll go look for something a bit more robust. Anyway, I digress....

So, if the cleats are clicking in and locking in, they are on correctly, the only thing that can keep them from not releasing is that they are slipping.

The other tips are good too, use a dry lube (a lot of it) on the mating surface of the pedal and a bit of grease. It helps a lot.

Finally, I find that you dont' need to crank the tension up much on these pedals. High tension makes them really hard to get out of, and it's nearly impossible to pull out of these pedals when the tension is at the lowest setting.

Hope this helps
AL
Have both the DA and 105 SPD-R pedalsowmynads
Nov 2, 2003 11:38 AM
Thanks AL, I think this is going to help quite a bit. I'm 50 miles away from 3k (this is my first season, and on a '98 Schwinn). I'm going to try this tip and then head out.

One last day in the 60's here in the NE.

-owmynads