|Here is what pisses me off about ebay!||the bull|
Oct 24, 2003 5:56 PM
|1. If you find the Item you want you can still get out bid on it(time wasted).
2. It takes over a week to get through the whole bidding process(time wasted).
3. Then your Item is shipped from somewhere, if you win it, could be from Canada(for all you know), and god knows who packed it.
4. You are not really able to inspect it, pictures on the computer do little justice and do not show wear and tear as well as real life.
5. All the time wasted waiting (maybe sending stuff back), and you could have paid a few more dollars and bought something new from a online retailer and known you were getting a new product.
Yes I dont think I will be buying anymore bicycling gear on ebay. It is just not worth the hassle!
To top it all off the deals are really not that good!
I think it is a good place to sell stuff.
|re: Here is what pisses me off about ebay!||_jim_|
Oct 24, 2003 7:47 PM
|Then there is you!||the bull|
Oct 24, 2003 11:01 PM
|re: Then there is you!||_jim_|
Oct 25, 2003 2:01 AM
|could i have the clif notes version of your first posting?|
|You can find that gem||Xeo|
Oct 24, 2003 10:26 PM
|Back in my MTB days I found a used trek 9.8 frame, which is Trek's top of the line carbon fiber MTB frame. If I wanted to buy this new, I would have had to pay over 1,000 to get it. I got the frame for 415.00 including shipping and even though I had to wait for the piece and had some grief with UPS, I built up an unbelievable ride considerably cheaper than I would have got otherwise.
For many things ebay is definitely not worth the time and energy required. But there are those few times when you can find a great deal and you can snatch it up.
My recipe is wait until 20 seconds left on the item then bid, and no your limit tell yourself that you will not bid after a certain amount. If you get it, you get, if you don't, you don't.
|My strategy, and it worked...||peter1|
Oct 25, 2003 7:17 PM
|...always wait until the last second. I just find an item I like, note the time the auction expires, and drop in a bid then. No big deal if I don't get the item. My best find was a nearly unridden Santa Cruz Heckler with primo parts four years ago for $1400, when you couldn't have built it up new for less than twice that. (Of course, you can now buy a Santa Cruz Ultralite for $1700 new, but who knew?) I looked for a similar bike for a year on various online bike classified pages with no luck until I hit it on Ebay.
My other great find is used cell phones. I've bought two for pennies on the dollar. Who cares if they're out of warranty? Just drop another $20 on Ebay when they break...
|Gems are even better on certain items...||dgangi|
Oct 26, 2003 12:36 PM
|I regularly find great deals on eBay. Typically I buy only new equipment, and I have gotten it for much cheaper than anywhere else. Of course, you MUST know what the item is being sold for by other on-line vendors or you can get screwed. For example, there is some eBay "store" that sells scuba equipment for MUCH MORE than the on-line scuba vendors do. The prices look good compared to full retail, but if you shopped the items at other on-line scuba stores, you would save money elsewhere.
Also, you can get GREAT deals on eBay if you are looking for something that few others will compete for. It is easy for me to pick up shorts on eBay for a steal because I wear a size small. Not many others out there wear smalls, so I can frequently get shorts for VERY cheap.
Here are the deals I recently got on eBay. All of these items were NEW:
1) Blackbottoms bike shorts, size sm: $12 ($50 at LBS)
2) Pearl Izumi sleeveless jersey, size md: $19 ($40 at REI)
3) Cateye Opticube light: $21 ($39 at REI)
4) Sigma Sport BC1600 computer: $19 ($35 at REI)
5) Specialized baggy shorts, size sm: $19 ($60 at LBS)
6) Zoic baggy jersey, size sm: $16 ($50+ at LBS)
And I have yet to be screwed by anybody on eBay. I guess if you buy used equipment, you have a higher chance of being screwed as the description of the "condition" of the equipment may vary from person to person. But I have also bought used equipment with great success -- I just require digital photos beforehand.
|You get what you pay for||filtersweep|
Oct 25, 2003 5:09 AM
|I doubt anyone would recommend using ebay to buy something you needed yesterday.
Also- that "time factor" is a huge psychological factor in why people pay too much on ebay- aside from the notion of "winning" an auction (which ultimately leads to "spending") people feel the have invested time in the process, and the more people invest, the more value they assign the item.
I think we have all paid more money trying to save money-
I've had a few bad experiences with ebay- purchased two trashed wheelsets that the sellers finally agreed to take back. Both were basically destroyed (a set of Ascent Comps and a set of Prima Vigors). I'm batting 50/50 because I received an incredible deal on new Ksyrium SLs a few years ago and a great set of rebuilt carbon wheels at a fraction of retail.
I won't argue that it is a hassle, but where else can you buy a pair of Vittoria Open Cosa CX tires for $57 ??
|re: So what is the problem with something from Canada?||hudsonite|
Oct 25, 2003 2:51 PM
|Good grief, products from Canada!
Canadians and Americans do over 1 billion dollars of trade, each way, every day. We are the two biggest trading partners in the world. That means that there are a lot of Americans jobs that depend on Canadians buying American goods and Canadians that rely on America buying Canadian goods. Both countries are better off because of trade. That is life and it is good for everybody.
There are is a lot of stuff in Canada that is cheaper than in the US. If you want it, it is for sale.
I can ship to any destination in the US overnight. Same speed as if I was shipping from a US city. Vancounver is much closer to Seatle than New York is. The border is a line on the map, not much more than that when it comes to trade.
And by the way, I am Canadian and buy from the US. I also sell to my American customers. So what is the big deal?
E-bay has lots of problems with fraud. Not to mention that many products sell for more than they are worth. But buying from Canada is not one of them.
|It has nothing to do with "Buying USA".||the bull|
Oct 25, 2003 4:25 PM
|I just have had stuff take a lot longer coming from Canada(longer wait).Or at least that was the excuse.
If I had my way I would support Europe (yes, not Canada, sorry) anyday.
But that has nothing to do with what I am talking about here.
I am talking about wait times and higher shipping fees to get it quicker.
Sorry, did not mean to stir up the $hit in that direction. :)
|Just exactly what is wrong with ...||toomanybikes|
Oct 25, 2003 4:14 PM
|stuff being shipped from CANADA??
I have bought off ebay and has stuff shipped from the US and UK.
What is about Canada that pees you off??
|Just exactly what is wrong with ...||russw19|
Oct 25, 2003 6:29 PM
|Same thing that pisses me off about buying from California... I live in Florida. It takes 8 days for UPS ground packages to get here from California or Vancouver. Takes 6 from Toronto. However it only takes 3 from Ohio or New Jersey. Those are UPS's figures, not mine... and I am not trying to jump in this great debate, but I also know that Bull lives in North Carolina. Living in the southeast, I know what he is going thru to have things shipped here from NW Canada or California for that matter.
Being that I live pretty close to Jacksonville, I can actually get things from certain parts of Western Europe faster than I can get things from California assuming it doesn't sit in customs.
If I still lived in Ohio, I wouldnt' give a damn about stuff coming from Canada, as it was just across Lake Erie from me, but hudsonite said it best when he said borders are just a line on a map, unfortunately for some of us in the US (and Florida is a very populous state) that line on the map is awefully far away from me.
Maybe you guys should read what was actually written before you all get some dang mad. There was no insult intended in Bull's post that I saw. Just border and distance frustration compounded by having to wait 3 to 10 days for an auction to end.
|The truth is..||the matador|
Oct 25, 2003 6:48 PM
|"nobody"likes "the bull".
He does not like Lance.
He does not like France.
He makes fun of Treks.
He likes to make you think of why you really like what you say you like.
He is fit and young.
So lets just make the board happy!