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Campy chain replacementgmc
Oct 16, 2003 3:51 AM
I need to replace my Campagnolo 10 speed chain - measured wear is bad. Chain has maybe 6000-7000 miles on it.

Two questions:
- Wear measured fine in most places, but one region of the chain was noticeably stretched. Normal?
- Does Campy chain replacement still require the special Campy tool? I thought I'd heard that it's now possible to use a standard chain tool. And (3rd question, I guess) aren't there some non-campy chains that will work with Campy-10 these days as well (recommendations?)?

Thanks.
Yes....Spunout
Oct 16, 2003 3:57 AM
You waited quite a long time to change your chain, check your cogs in the back as they may need changing also

Park tool will work, just be careful. Let the chain hang slack around the BB while you join it.

Wipperman

Search this board, we've hacked this question alot in recent months.
Yes....campy chain and connex link...........nmRusty Coggs
Oct 16, 2003 4:56 AM
nm
my advice...C-40
Oct 16, 2003 4:57 AM
The area of chain with the most wear may have included the permalink. If not, it sounds weird. May just be a measuring error (using a Park chain checker?).

The new HD-L connector pin (not the old permalink) can be installed with a Park or other high quality chain tool, if you're careful and drape the chain over the bottom bracket to relieve the tension on the chain while installing the pin. Be sure to quit pushing when the head on the pin is seated on the sideplate of the chain. Also be sure that the opposite end of the pin protrudes per Campy's instructions.

Another good option is to use a Wipperman "connex" link to join the chain. Just be sure that it's installed with the slot in the sideplate pointing toward the rear of the bike. This link can be installed backward.

The Wipperman 10 chain works OK, but it's not as quiet as a campy chain. Didn't like it myself.
Standard tool works!tmguy
Oct 16, 2003 7:33 AM
Did it last month with Park PC-5 tool. Followed the advice of the other posters. Slack chain drive, it from the indside as per the instructions. Key is you need to put some torque/force on the tool to push the pin in but once it goes it will be quick and you need to go slow with the turns on the tool and be careful that you don't drive it through.

No problems; did a 100k ride at 20 mph as part of a team triathlon the very next day.
2-3000 miles ago would have been betterColnagoFE
Oct 16, 2003 7:34 AM
I'm guessing you might need a new cassette by now as well. I usually replace at 3500-4000.
Consider a Wipperman stainless steel..DINOSAUR
Oct 16, 2003 8:01 AM
I did not pay much attention to all the posts about Campy chain replacements until I went to replace my Campy ten speed chain for the second time and my LBS was out of stock. I replaced it with a Wipperman Stainless steel and it works just as well as the Campy. It makes a little more chain noise and does not shift as flawlessly as the Campy chain but it works fine. It's easy to install if you follow the directions about the connex link placement. You need a chain tool to remove extra links and I use a Park Mini Brute chain tool which will work on 9 and 10 speed chains (my second bike is Shimano). Prior to going to the Wipperman I just dragged my bike down to my LBS and they replaced my Campy chain while I waited. You can install the Wipperman by yourself and it comes off easy for cleaning if you like to remove your chain.
Consider a Wipperman stainless steel..Dougyowougy
Oct 16, 2003 9:21 AM
I have had 2 of these chains break at the pins (but NOT at the connex connector)
after about 2500 miles. I am going back to using a DuraAce chain with the connex.
re: Campy chain replacementHiggins
Oct 17, 2003 5:57 AM
I have recently fitted a new chain to my Campy 10-speed setup. I hadn't done the mileage you have done and I had to replace the cassette too as the new chain was slipping on my 'favourite' cogs. I now plan to replace the chain a lot more frequently.
re: Wipperman.....lyleseven
Oct 17, 2003 6:56 AM
Wipperman, Wipperman, Wipperman.... only way to go.
Thanks everyone (plus comments)gmc
Oct 17, 2003 7:56 AM
Copy all.

Cassette is ok, I have a couple set of wheels, used about equally, and have replaced my cassettes in the past. So I don't have cogset that has more than a couple thousand miles on it, with this chain or any other.

Stretch was measured at LBS when some other work was done, with the Park tool. Didn't think to ask if the permalink was the area with the stretch in it when I watched him measure.

I have the nice Park chain tool, so I think I'll go that route with the HD-L connector. I've removed/installed lots of chains before, but never my Campy 10 - had the LBS doit the first two times it's was replaced but thought I'd head what you guys all said. thanks for the help!

(And I'll search before asking next time)