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Suggestions for wet road tires?(10 posts)

Suggestions for wet road tires?owmynads
Oct 8, 2003 7:20 AM
Looking for a recommendation for tires that would be good in wet weather conditions. I've got a race coming up and it looks like it's going to be sloppy weather.

-owmynads
According to what's-his-name...Cory
Oct 8, 2003 8:07 AM
Can't remember the guy's name--might have been Chester Kyle--but several years ago he did a study of tire tread and its effects on traction. Turned out, he said, that "it's one of those things that looks more important than it probably is." Bike tires are so narrow they cut through the film of water regardless of the tread design. He even gave a speed you'd have to achieve to hydroplane, in the hundreds of miles per hour.
Tire COMPOUND did make a difference--softer the better, generally. And Grant Petersen says he can spin slick tires climbing in the rain, if he pedals hard when the rear is on a paint stripe, for whatever THAT'S worth.
Perhaps Jan or Joseba...owmynads
Oct 8, 2003 8:56 AM
might be able to tell me which tires NOT to buy. Sheesh. Beloki's wipeout was so bad to watch that it's made me paraniod. Jan looked like he slid across the road on top of the rain, almost, but I bet that left a mark. OUCH!

But would anyone have brand suggestions they've been relatively successful with in the rain?

-owmynads
Perhaps Jan or Joseba...filtersweep
Oct 8, 2003 9:33 AM
Jan wiped out in the paint...

Use a good tire at less pressure- the "tread" isn't what will help you.

I'd recommend a supple tire (not something that rides like a plastic garden hose) so you can receive enough feedback to know your traction... something handmade and Italian with a high thread count in the casing...
Brandslyleseven
Oct 8, 2003 2:47 PM
I have had great success with Panaracer Pasela TGs and Hutchinson Excels (cheap, but great in the rain). Also, Michelin Axial Bi-Sports, but they are hard to find anymore. The Pasela TGs run small, so you can use a 28 that is more like a 23 or 25. Plus, they are bulletproof.
re: Suggestions for wet road tires?flybyvine
Oct 8, 2003 8:09 PM
Conti GP 4 seasons. A GP3000 but designed for wet weather. I race on the GP3000's but have been using the GP4 Seasons in the rain for training - best wet weather feedback I have ever had.
re: Suggestions for wet road tires?rm6rider
Oct 9, 2003 2:08 AM
I like Panaracer Stradius Extreme. You can also read the reviews on this site.
re: Suggestions for wet road tires?lyleseven
Oct 9, 2003 3:08 PM
I had left that one out, but the Stradius Extreme is a great tire for the wet or any surface!
re: Suggestions for wet road tires?jw25
Oct 9, 2003 12:44 PM
I'm with the poster who recommended something supple, so you get adequate feedback. Hmmm, the Vittoria Open All Weather is pretty much the king of wet weather racing tires, but they're pricey and can be hard to find. I've had very good luck with a pair of Axial Pro 25's, which were made for Paris-Roubaix. Also hard to find anymore, though there is a 25mm version of the Pro Race.
Hutchinson's Reflex Gold has been fine - it's super-supple, and sticks fairly well.
One thing to consider, whatever you choose: paint is slick when wet. Same as steel, this has to do with the surface structure, and pretty much no tire will make much difference. So, stay off the painted lines, or don't try to corner if you must hit them.
And, in general, ride a little less aggressively when it's wet out. This means keeping the bike more upright in the corners, and angling your body instead, as well as braking more smoothly if possible. I know it's a race, and stuff happens, but the fastest way to the finish is staying upright.
re: Suggestions for wet road tires?owmynads
Oct 10, 2003 5:37 AM
Thanks to all for the feedback. I like anecdotal info like this because you can't get honest results from the media these days *sigh*. I'll be paying special attention to the riding advice given here, as well as the suggestion about lower tire pressure, if the weather is sloppy.

Looks like, after all this, that Monday's going to end up clear, dry, and cool. (!!!) Who'da thunk?

Now let's hope the weather man wasn't half-cacked when he was looking at the radar...

-owmynads