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Mirage vs VelocePaulCL
Sep 24, 2003 9:48 AM
I'm building a second 'rainy day' bike. Is there any reason NOT to buy Mirage components over Veloce?? All I need now is the crankset,shifters and R. derailleur. All of my other components are Veloce. The price difference (when buying from is around $65 for the three. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks. paul
re: Mirage vs Velocerussw19
Sep 24, 2003 10:41 AM
Paul, if it's a 2nd rainy day bike, then who cares? As long as it functions properly, then save your money. The only thing I could think of that would sway me the other way is if the Mirage uses more steel bolts that would rust, as oppossed to what's on Veloce, but I don't know if they do or don't. I would maybe look into that one as a factor, but that's about the only factor I can think of for this one.

Mirage Plastic Shifters are Cr@pbimini
Sep 24, 2003 11:39 AM
I like Campy but the black plastic Mirage shifters were a big mistake. I broke 2 of the right hand shifter levers just doing normal shifting in one season. I'm pretty dunb sometimes so I had to buy 2 of them before I learned my lesson. Got a nice pair of used Chorus shifters on ebay and have been very happy since. The veloce uses an aluminium shifter. Older Mirage has the cheap plastic. I think the newer ones are aluminium so may be okay.
I just noticed thatPaulCL
Sep 24, 2003 11:58 AM
When looking at pictures, I noticed they were black. Couldn't be carbon, so I assumed plastic. I might buy the Mirage crank and R.der but will go for Veloce on the ergo shifters.

Thanks guys. Paul
Would not go lower than Velocethe bull
Sep 24, 2003 1:59 PM
Everything starts turning into plastic.
The fit and finish of Veloce is okay but quality is starting to disappear at a very noticable level once you hit Centuar.I dont think I could ride a bike with anything less then my Veloce (Rain)bike.
Besides I could not bring myself to put plastic components on a Pinarello.
Record shift levers are also plasticflakey
Sep 24, 2003 3:08 PM
The shift assembly on the Record carbon ergolever is just plastic. It does have a small flat piece of carbon on the finger paddle, but otherwise it is plain old plastic, and they break all the time. The new Chorus ergolever will have the same plastic shift assembly but without the little carbon piece on the paddle. For '04 only two of the five ergolevers, six if you count Xenon, will have alloy shift levers, they are Centaur and Veloce, the rest are plastic.
Is it the same kind of plastic?the bull
Sep 25, 2003 3:04 AM
There are different kinds of plastic.
I would like to believe Record uses a very special plastic, and not "just" any kind of plastic. :)
Specialized Pinarello?Fez
Sep 25, 2003 6:57 AM
You wrote:

Besides I could not bring myself to put plastic components on a Pinarello.

Come on, what's really underneath that paint?
fez!the bull
Sep 25, 2003 8:31 AM
I have more than one bike.
The clonago is a whole different thing here.
Sep 25, 2003 9:02 AM
Just busting some balz here.

I actually think you did a pretty damn nice job on the Clonago.

Any plans to paint your Ti bike? I recently gave mine the complete stealth treatment and removed all the bright yellow stickers. I like it a lot - attracts much less attention.
I am going to repaint the clonago first.the bull
Sep 25, 2003 5:58 PM
I am not happy with the enamel paint(It chips to easy), I want to start painting with polyurathane (sp?). I am going to buy a spray gun that hooks up to a compresser.
I know a guy who paints all the high line cars for our dealerships and he is going to hook me up with different paints that are mixed for the the current temperature and humidity of that day.
I want to lean to spray flake colored jobs that will blow away most jobs on bikes today.

I showed some people the paint job I did on the Specalized and they could not belive I did that with a can.

I would advise not to use a thick stickers like I did on the Clonago. I want to find a way to use the decals like the ones that you soaked in water for the plastic models as a kid.
Then I can Clear coat over them and it would not be raised up.

I have been checking out paint jobs on bikes forever and it is amazing how many of them really suck.

I have to say the IF has some of the best.
I hope to be spraying at the same quality as them in a couple of years.

It is the hardest to spray the rear triangles but I am learning tricks so that the overspray does not hit tubes I an aiming for.

BTW: Ti is very hard to paint.It is not so much the way it looks but how easy it chips.
I think steel is the best surface to play with.

I still have no Idea what I am doing.
re: Mirage vs Velocegeeker
Sep 24, 2003 7:15 PM
I once researched this on (there should be some stuff in the Google archives). The only *substantive* difference I recall is that Mirage has a steel chainring (perhaps just the small one?) rather than aluminum, which adds weight. Otherwise, Mirage has some plastic and lesser finish, but mechanical function seems essentially identical. I wouldn't hesitate to go Mirage.
Mirage hubs: Cheap QRs are NOT reassuring, I'll change mine. nmSpunout
Sep 25, 2003 9:37 AM