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Newb rim question....(11 posts)

Newb rim question....vertigo411
Sep 22, 2003 9:33 AM
Sup all,

I have this old, circa '85 beater. It has steel rims and I can't ride it in the rain due to the brake's inability to grab the wet steel.

So, I have two questions:

1) What kind of rims should I get as replacements? I'm looking for something cheap and sturdy (I'm a 190 pound rider)

2) Will new rims help with dry weather braking, which, at this point, leaves something to be desired.

Mavic MA3 or Open Pro would be vast improvement nmDougSloan
Sep 22, 2003 9:35 AM
re: Newb rim question....pmf1
Sep 22, 2003 10:29 AM
Make sure you know what size rims to get. An almost 20 year old bike may have 27 inch rather than 700 c rims. It makes a difference. Tires are not interchangable. If you have the older 27", you may be able to adjust your brakes to work with 700c -- make sure though.

Modern rims are stronger and a lot lighter than the older steel versions. Many (e.g., Mavic Open Pro) have a grooved/textured braking surface that makes them stop better when wet.
Reality check…DaveLobster
Sep 22, 2003 11:31 AM
If you are riding a bike with steel rims, probably the best thing you can do is save up a little more money and buy yourself a reasonably priced new or used bike. I bought my first "good" bike in 1983, and even then only the crummiest bikes had steel rims. Is this bike really worth it? Most old "ten-speeds" with steel rims were the equivalent of a modern-day comfort bike or hybrid.

Putting a brand-new set of wheels on a bike that was bottom of the line in 1978 just doesn't strike me as a good use of your funds. Even if you build your own wheels, I don't think this would be a good use of your time, and spokes and nipples aren't free either. Plus you then get into the issue of brake adjustment, etc. And one upgrade leads to another, and next thing you know you have a $500 1978 Fuji Monterey.

Keep this bike to use on your trainer, and get yourself a decent $600 new bike. I for one don't want you to be riding behind me on a bike with steel rims and ancient center-pull brakes. Just trying to be helpful. -Dave
Reality check…MShaw
Sep 22, 2003 3:52 PM
I agree with this post in general, if you MUST get a new set of wheels, have your LBS check out EuroAsia's catalog of prebuilt wheels. They'll probably be able to find something that fits for not a lot of $$.

Speaking from experience....russw19
Sep 22, 2003 5:18 PM
Screw Euro-Asia unless you want to pay way too much for stuff that has been discontinued for a few years!

Get something cheap from J&B. It's what they do best is lower priced bike parts and accessories.

If you want low prices and aren't looking for high end stuff, and you work in a shop, you check the J&B catalog before anyone else.

Sorry, its been awhile since I've ordered from either co. nmMShaw
Sep 22, 2003 8:35 PM
All have overloked the obvious....Lone Gunman
Sep 22, 2003 3:54 PM
If this bike is a beater bike and the rims are straight and round, do the simplest thing first, get a set of Kool Stop brake pads, they may dramatically improve your wet braking. If you want/need new wheels for the beater, and they are 27", look at for Sun M13 36 hole rims, providing your existing hubs are 36 hole and are usable. New rims with a rebuild of existing hubs probably going to cost about $125-$150 at the shop.
Two words.... Brake Pads!russw19
Sep 22, 2003 5:27 PM
They are way cheaper than new rims. If you go the wheel route you most likely will have to rebuild on your hubs or convert your bike to cassette as decent wheels with a freewheel are getting hard to find unless you look used on ebay.

Get some soft compound brake pads. Even if you rip thru them and have to replace them once every 6 months, it's still going to take like 15 years before they cost you as much as new rims. They may be hard to find depending on the type of brakes you have, but it's a start. Otherwise, as others have pointed out... you will start dumping money into a bike that may not be worth dumping money into.

re: Newb rim question...._jim_
Sep 22, 2003 8:11 PM
sup all? lame
I thought it was a cleaver pun for "Mavic SUP".the bull
Sep 22, 2003 9:07 PM
speaking of _lame_ !