|Shimano 105 versus Ultegra||rwsh|
Sep 11, 2003 11:10 AM
|Hi everybody. Am looking for a woman-specific bike for my wife. Less than $2000 and preferably steel frame. That rules out Cannondale 1000 (aluminum) and the Trek 5200 (too expensive). The best Fuji (Roubaix Pro, $1200) only comes with 105 grouppo. The Lemond Zurich which is $700 more comes with Ultegra. For an intermediate/casual cyclist, are you really sacrificing a lot with 105? Functionality and durability are more important to us than looks or weight. Many thanks. William.|
|re: Shimano 105 versus Ultegra||edmundtan|
Sep 11, 2003 5:29 PM
|I have 2 bikes, one set up with mainly Ultegra, and the other with 105. Both works great but the Ultegra shifts smoother in my opinion.
$700 for an Ultegra-equipped bike is a steal.
|re: Shimano 105 versus Ultegra||Solky|
Sep 11, 2003 5:48 PM
|I have had a 105 component bike for 8 years, with only regular maintenance. Recently, I purchased a second bike with Dura Ace components and was interested to see if I could detect a difference. The reality is it is smoother and lighter, but I go just as fast and the ride is just as enjoyable with the 105 bike. 105's are excellent components for a casual cyclist and will be very durable with regular maintenance.|
|re: Shimano 105 versus Ultegra||maximum15|
Sep 12, 2003 2:44 AM
|The differences are marginal. Try a bike with each and see if you (she) can tell a difference in shifting. One advantage Ultegra does have is the resale values are higher.|
|No real sacrifice in using 105, especially for Casual riding||niteschaos|
Sep 12, 2003 4:32 AM
|105 may even be overkill.|
|re: Shimano 105 versus Ultegra||Tower|
Sep 12, 2003 4:43 AM
|I think the 105 would be just fine for your wife if she's a casual rider. Is there a chance this bike will be purchased, ridden a few times, then hung up for good in the garage? If so, go with the lesser expensive.
If there's a chance she'll really get into the sport, I'd lean towards the Zurich. As stated, $700 for Ultegra is a good deal. Plus you get a better wheel set with the Zurich as well.
A few things to consider: The Fuji comes as a Triple, where as the Zurich you'd have to pay a little more. Also if she rides smaller than a 54cm in the Fuji, they come with 650 wheels. I believe all sizes of the Zurich come with 700.
You might check out other LeMond and Fuji models. I don't know how much of a difference these "women specific" models make. My wife rides a LeMond Buenos Aires and fits just fine. It's built with a combination of 105/Ultegra (Mostly the latter) and is priced around $1,300.
Bottom line is make sure she's comfortable (and happy :-) )
|both groups are excellent for the casual cyclist||JS Haiku Shop|
Sep 12, 2003 6:14 AM
|I have both, as well as campy chorus 10 speed--the latter often considered equivalent to dura ace. i prefer the shimano stuff; this is personal preferece, of course.
there are small tactile differences (shifting), but they are not "performance" differences unless you're racing at a high level, IMHO.
go for the best deal; you (your wife) will not be dissatisfied with either group.
|He didn't say a $700 Zurich...||ET_SoCal|
Sep 12, 2003 6:46 AM
|But that's it's 700 more than the 1200 Fuji, ($1900) about the going price for a new model Lemond Zurich.
I'd would of liked to find a deal like that, just myself purchased a Gunnar Roadie w/ 105 for $1200.
Sep 12, 2003 5:50 PM
|Zurich's can be had now for much less than that. Especially with the new models coming soon.
Bought my '03 Zurich for $1600 in April.
|that's still a long way from $700. nm.||russw19|
Sep 12, 2003 7:21 PM
|Go with 105||Dropped|
Sep 12, 2003 8:02 AM
|I recently replaced my 105 components, which were all 7 or 8 years old and dying of old age, with Ultegra.
The Ultegra maybe shifts a bit smoother, but I don't think the performance justifies the price difference.
I think the 105 gives more bang for the buck than any other group and an intermediate/casual cyclist is giving up nothing by using that. Having said that, the "black" 105 is just lame. I don't know if they are still making those. Silly as it is, I could not stomach black components on my bike. U-G-L-Y!!!
Sep 12, 2003 10:31 AM
|I'm not sure but I do believe that the reach of the levers can be adjusted on ultegra. This may be an advantage to a woman with smaller hands. My wife has 105 on her trek 2000 WSD and she loves it but she does say it would be a little easier to brake with a shorter reach lever like her mountain bike.
Sep 12, 2003 10:47 AM
|IMO the Ultegra short reach levers aren't that great. They are just the normal levers with a shim shoved in there to keep them partially on. You can do the same with any lever, with a little superglue and a piece of rubber.|
Sep 12, 2003 11:16 AM
|I'll try that on my wife's bike. Thanks|
Sep 12, 2003 11:21 AM
|No problem, but really thank Terry bikes. They told me that trick. I have been thinking about drilling and tapping the levers so that they are continuously adjustable like MTB levers, but the rubber bumper trick works great.|
Sep 13, 2003 12:04 PM
|My wife picked up an Ultegra level Specialized "women's" bike for just under $1100 (I thought "No fair!!"). OK- it does have a Specialized crankset, and brakes, but it is Ultegra "where it counts." ....and the little drop bars are just the cutest thing...|| |