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Clinchers for Racing on Rough Roads.(9 posts)

Clinchers for Racing on Rough Roads.DannyBoy
Sep 9, 2003 1:36 PM
I'm doing a 100 mile road race again this year and want ride a nice light responsive clincher, but don't want my ride buggered up by punctures.

Last year I rode one of the lighter treadless Michelins - think they were Axial Pro's 19 or 20mm. They performed well, but are now cut to ribbons, making me think they may not be the best thing for the rough and often glass strewn roads of New Zealand.

Over the last 6 months I've also had a fair few pinch flats, pressumably because the chosen tyres are narrow - I heard that a wider tyre, especially the rear one, actually has a lower rolling resistance??? Is this true???

Can anyone recommend a good light racing tyre, that's reasonably puncture resistant???

Hard to know what to chose, I've heard bad things about Conti's and side walls blowing out etc etc so some good advice would be a real help.

Any advice on light, responsive but resiliant tyre and tube combos would be appreciated. Also, is there any point buying a tube that contains a solution similar to that offered by Tufo that seals small punctures as they occur!

Any other things I can do/use to speed up puncture repair on the road like solutions or compressed air???

DannyBoy.
re: Clinchers for Racing on Rough Roads.flyweight
Sep 9, 2003 3:05 PM
I've gotten a lot of puncture free and comfortable miles out of my Michelin Axial Carbon 25mm clinchers. They've survived plenty of potholes, curb hops and dirt roads. Mine weighed less than 1.5 ounces more than the Michelin Pro Race tires they replaced.
Second the Axial Carbons, especially for sidewall cuts...TFerguson
Sep 9, 2003 3:27 PM
I was using Axial Pros on my training rides. The road shoulders that I ride have a lot of crushed limestone and some glass. The sidewalls were getting cut up regularly. Installed a pair of Axial Carbons and no more cuts. I have had no punctures or pinch flats either, but I seldom had them anyway. I still race the Axial Pros. All the above are 23mm.

TF
Gommitalia Targa. Expensive, but tough. nmJas0n
Sep 9, 2003 4:27 PM
Thanks for the feedback,anyone tried the new Conti Attack/ForceDannyBoy
Sep 9, 2003 8:21 PM
Any other recomendations from the tough racing tyre perspective, as opposed to training tyres.
Attack/Force: Dumb. nmSpunout
Sep 10, 2003 3:38 AM
Thanks for the feedback,anyone tried the new Conti Attack/ForceBeaver
Sep 10, 2003 5:24 AM
YMMV, but I had less than 100 miles on my Attack/Force tires until I got a split in the rear sidewall that ran from the tread to the rim. No idea how it happened. I don't remember hitting anything that would put a hole that long in the sidewall. I had just crossed over some railroad tracks, sat at a stoplight for a few minutes and when it turned green I took off and then heard a hiss about 300 yards down the road. Good thing I take tire patches with me. I patched it up, rode home and threw them in the garbage. First time I have ever done that with a tire and the first time I ever got a split in the sidewall.

Aside from the hole, the tires handled well and rode similar to GP 3000s. The Attack/Force rolled a little quicker, but the conering was about the same as the GPs.

I'm riding Open Corsas now and don't plan to change anytime soon. If I go back to Contis, I'm going with the GP 3000s.
re: Clinchers for Racing on Rough Roads.charlieboy
Sep 10, 2003 12:48 AM
I've had a lot of miles using Vittoria Open All Weathers. Great ride and no punctures (did the Etape in France this year, no problems, at least from the tyres!)

I'm quite heavy so back tyre has worn significantly more than front but overall a good tyre.

Whatever you choose, go for 23 size front and back, for comfort - you're not doing a time trial! And yes there is some research that says that 23 is more aero than 19 or 20.

Not sure that the new Conti combo would be ideal for 'rough roads'.

Not sure that 'slime' or 'goo' in high pressure tyres is a good idea - I remember having terrible probs with this some years ago in mtb tyres. It also adds a lot to rotational mass.

For quick puncture repair get Park glueless patches 'Super Patch Kit GP-2'. I've had no experience with gas cartridges but no doubt someone has! If you are expecting lots of flats I'd carry a pump, as one canister per flat could be a big penalty.

Good luck in your race.
re: Clinchers for Racing on Rough Roads.sindoe
Sep 15, 2003 1:49 AM
Link to a German test:

http://www.tour-magazin.de/to/tour_artikel/show.php3?id=245&nodeid=28&subnav=21

This will give extra, valuable info. about what to believe - and what not! - about "wide" tires.