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Shifters upgraderm6rider
Sep 8, 2003 7:02 PM
I'm thinking of getting the Dura Ace. As of now, there's nothing wrong with the Ultegras that I have on my 2002 Trek 2200. But after reading the reviews, I'm not sure if I want to wait to get stuck out there because of faulty shifters. Based on your experience, do you think I should just go ahead and upgrade now or wait until the sign that it's about to go bad? Also, where can I get the best deal on these DA's. Thanks guys.
re: Shifters upgradeHarlemCracka
Sep 9, 2003 7:41 AM
What are the signs that Ultegra shifters are going bad? I'm having some strange happenings...
Normally, they give you warning. TheOldEdScott
Sep 9, 2003 9:22 AM
problems slip up on you, or did on me.

I'm my case, once a week or so I'd downshift (to a bigger cog) and there'd be no click, like the ratchet didn't engage. The chain would fall back onto the smaller cog. At first, you just think it's a misshift -- you didn't shove the lever far enough. But it happened more and more often, in more and more gears, and I was now paying close enough attention to know I wasn't just being lazy with my shifts. The thing simply wasn't catching.

After two sets of Ultegras that developed this problem, I just said to hell with in and switched to DA. DAs been right on for a thousand miles now. Not a hint of a problem.

A lot of people have problems with the small lever, but mine (in two sets) were always with the big lever.
How many miles before that started to happen ?Steve Young
Sep 9, 2003 10:17 AM
I've had the same thing with my Ultegra shifters a couple of times recently and just figured that it was lazy shifting or perhaps that I needed to adjust the indexing.

I've had the bike for a few months and done about 1200 miles on it (maybe a bit more but I sometimes forget to take the commputer :)

The failure to shift is just on the right hand shifter and appears to ocur when shifting up the cogs (i.e. to an easier gear on the back) and then mostly on the larger cogs (i.e. it happens more with the shifts to the 25 and 27 tooth cog) which is why I thought it was lazy shifting.

When I try again it always works second time.

I haven't done anything to my bike apart from ride it (only in the dry), clean and lube the chain and pump up the tires - is there something I need to do to the shifters too ? (Is indexing adjustment something I hould consider - I've never had anything similar happen on my mountain bike in several years of pretty hard riding (in wet muddy conditions). Having said that I'm running XTR (2001) on the MTB and meticulously strip it down and rebuild after every wet ride.

Also there's a little squeaking from the front hub on my road bike (M-535) so I guess I may be getting to the time when my road bike deserves a little tlc.

I'm not looking for a reason to upgrade to DA at the moment as I just spent all my slack cash (and then some) on a fixed wheel Fuji from Harris cyclery (eagerly awaiting delivery!)

TIA,

Steve
At about 1200 miles, oddly enough, both times.OldEdScott
Sep 9, 2003 11:36 AM
It wasn't the cable adjustment. It was the index click itself that wasn't engaging. I was, more and more often, getting no click. If I got a click it would hold. I have to assume it was the ratchet mech.

It started out occasionally, in just one gear. It gradually spread to a couple of others. And you know that three-click quick shift? First it wouldn't catch on the third click, then it wouldn't catch on the second.

Shimano didn't even question it. First they replaced with another Ultegra, then just gave me a DA.
Thanks - that was a really useful post. (nm)Steve Young
Sep 9, 2003 11:44 AM
At about 1200 miles, oddly enough, both times.HarlemCracka
Sep 10, 2003 9:00 AM
Can you tell me exactly how you got them to give you the DA shifters? I just called Shimano to feel it out and they were basically saying to lube the shifter or go to the LBS. What's the secret?
Get your LBS service manager to call toOldEdScott
Sep 12, 2003 8:19 AM
verify the problem. He probably has a Shimano guy he deals with all the time. If he trusts the service manager that, indeed, everything is cleaned, lubed and set up right but still malfunctioning, you'll surely get a replacement Ultegra. I think I got the DA bump-up because I reasonably offered to pay the price difference, 9-speed DA is being phased out, and the Shimano guy was in the mood to keep a customer (or a bike shop guy) happy that day. They didn't even require that I pay the difference, and they gave me free socks and cables too.
Normally, they give you warning. TheHarlemCracka
Sep 9, 2003 11:12 AM
OldEdScott... That's the exact problem that I've been having. I put about 6000 miles and 2 hard crashes on them, so I guess I've gotten my money's worth. Thanks
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Sep 11, 2003 4:04 PM
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