|Need recomendations for 1" threadless headset.||MichaelM|
Aug 30, 2003 12:46 AM
|I have a hang up about paying the price of a Chris King headset, but I need something reliable and weather proof. It's for my one and only bike (Lemond Alp du'huez 853 and 105 throught, so I'm not sure about using a Campag!), and is going to be used throught winter in this wet and rainy country that is my home.
It seems that the so called sealed units that I've used in the past are anything but. Any recommendations please?
|Just get the King.||the bull|
Aug 30, 2003 3:30 AM
|I have three of these headsets and I have never had a problem.
The one on my mountian bike is in its 5th frame (two that I have cracked the frames) in the last 10 years.
They are worth every penny and more!
I have installed them in a lot of bikes and I maintain alot of bikes.
I have never seen one fail!
|Keep and eye on ebay for the King||spookyload|
Aug 30, 2003 6:26 AM
|You can pick them up for around $60 sometimes. Especially if you are looking for black or silver. I just recently sent in a headset to king. It was creaking from the first install two years ago, and they mailed me back a brand new replacement. The funny part was the RMA# was 2400, so I asked Jil if that was the total number of RMA's King has issued....she said it was. That is amazing product reliablility if they have sold that many componets and had less than 3000 RMA#'s issued.|
|CK is the first choice...||TFerguson|
Aug 30, 2003 12:07 PM
|But if the $60-100 plus shipping is no go, you can get the excellent Cane Creek C2 for under $25, including shipping, on Ebay. You need to have the time to keep bidding the minimum until you get it. If not, then it's $27 (minus 20% right now) plus shipping on their site. I have both and 20 years from now my CKs may still be ticking and my C2s dead, but that's a long ways away.
|My bad. The 20% requires a $50 order. (nm)||TFerguson|
Aug 30, 2003 12:09 PM
|Cane Creek S-Pro for $50||Nessism|
Aug 30, 2003 3:49 PM
|Super nice headset. I've got one and think it's almost as nice as the King on my other bike. I'm not a fan of the squared off look on the 1-1/8" version but the 1" looks fine to me. Great value.
|Something to think about with Chris King headsets...||russw19|
Aug 30, 2003 8:11 PM
|Chris King has been THE LEADER of headsets for well over 10 years now. Some companies like Cane Creek and IRD are making headsets that are almost as good now.
Think about that for a momement.... they have been the top dog for over 10 years, more like 15 now, and just now are the other companies coming CLOSE to being as good. That's crazy amazing!
If you can't design a better headset in over 10 years of trying, why bother trying to knock King off the top? They obviously have a perfect headset. Pay the money because it is the one part on your bike that you will NEVER have to buy again!
|Something to think about with Chris King headsets...||Fez|
Aug 30, 2003 8:38 PM
|Absolutely agree with what you said for threaded headsets. The King is the best, even though the Shimano threaded headsets are plenty good as well.
As far as threadless headsets go, Cane Creek/DiaCompe supposedly invented and still holds the licensing rights on the threadless headset. So how did they end up making threadless headsets that are inferior to King?
|Holding the patent, and better quality don't always equate...||russw19|
Aug 31, 2003 8:37 AM
|The King headset was the first to use light aluminium cups in their headsets. They were the first to use angular contact sealed needle bearings. It is simply the best headset on the market. All the hype you have heard about King headsets is most likely true.
How many of the Dia Comp and Cane Creek headsets can be simply and easily converted from threaded to threadless? You can do that to your 10 year old (and still 100% functional) King in 5 minutes for about $10. King designs parts to last a lifetime... other companies design parts to last a couple years and are intended to be replaced. It's a badge of honour for King headsets to be transfered to a new frame every so many years. If you sent them an email telling them that you have a 10 year old headset that has seen 5 or 6 frames, they will send you a thank you card. Just because they didn't invent the threadless design doesn't mean their headset is weaker than the Cane Creek. I am big supporter of Cane Creek parts.. they are a great company and make really nice stuff, but I still ride King Headsets every chance I get.
King didn't invent the threaded headset either, but theirs is certainly the best. They didn't invent hubs, but theirs are very near the top of the food chain there too. If they could make them silent, there wouldn't be anyone else close.
Aug 31, 2003 4:58 PM
|I have heard a lot of hype about how King Nothreadsets are the best. I just wanted to know some specifics, especially since the Cane Creek S-Pro headset retails at the same price as a King.
I have yet to use a King, since every OEM headset (Ultegra threaded or Cane Creek threadless) has never failed so I never had the "honor" of installing one.
|This is my oldest King head set.||the bull|
Aug 31, 2003 5:31 PM
|There is not a "KING" printed on it.|
|Allthough I have no use for it I cant bear to toss them!||the bull|
Aug 31, 2003 5:33 PM
|Since when does King use needle bearings?||Nessism|
Aug 31, 2003 9:14 PM
|King uses angular contact ball bearings if I'm not mistaken.
|Since when does King use needle bearings?||russw19|
Aug 31, 2003 9:38 PM
|My mistake... I confused the two... Not quite the same thing...
|Sometimes $100 is just too much. (nm)||TFerguson|
Aug 31, 2003 2:56 AM
|At $100 I'd take 2!||MichaelM|
Aug 31, 2003 5:23 AM
|I'm in the UK, the cheapest I can find them for is £99.99, and thats black or silver, £115 for a nice green one to match the frame.
Still I've come to accept it may be a price worth paying, just trying to convince myself 100% before ordering.
Thanks for the comments.
Sep 4, 2003 4:19 PM
|Go to the reviews section and read what people are saying about the Chris King headset. It is the last headset you will ever buy for your bike. Put it on and forget about it. It is impeccable, one of the best products you will ever purchase and well worth the money. I live in South Florida and consistently ride in rainy conditions and have never needed to do any maintenance on the Chris King headset.|| |