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anybody built a homemade crown race setter or similar?(14 posts)

anybody built a homemade crown race setter or similar?JS Haiku Shop
Aug 22, 2003 6:50 AM
geez i don't want to pay $50 for a tool i'll use once a year, but i also don't want to pay the shop to do it when i could buy the tool and pay it off through use in 3 years' time.

anybody have plans or suggestions for a homemade crown race setter? or, how have you done it without the tool?

TIA!
re: anybody built a homemade crown race setter or similar?Juanmoretime
Aug 22, 2003 7:06 AM
I now own the Park race setter. In the past, I have used a 14" piece of PVC tubing that fit over the steerer. You can bring an old crown race to hardware store to get the right diameter piece of PVC.
Yup.Spoke Wrench
Aug 22, 2003 7:16 AM
It's a good quality control measure too. If you can't bang it on with a PVC tube, you've got a too small crown race.
re: anybody built a homemade crown race setter or similar?Tom C
Aug 22, 2003 7:13 AM
Wow, what's happened? I saw your post, looked at The Third Hand where I got mine only a few years ago for 10 bucks and now they don't carry a one. Bike Tools, 50 and up. Before I sprung my sawbuck and went deluxe, I used gas pipe. If you can find a plumbing supply house bring your crown race and fit a section of pipe over it to contact the shoulder of the race only not the ball track get about an 8 inch piece to give it some mass. Now this I used on 1 inch. 1 1/8 , I don't know. But at the .85 cents or whatever it was at the time it's well worth investigating. Good luck.
PVC: perfect, thanks. nmJS Haiku Shop
Aug 22, 2003 7:29 AM
what about a threadless nut setter?JS Haiku Shop
Aug 22, 2003 7:34 AM
i'm sure i could bang it in there with a piece of pipe or a long threade rod, but how will i make sure it goes in straight, and to the right depth?

of course this one's only $15 and i'm more likely to buy it than risk bungling the job.
what about a threadless nut setter?Spoke Wrench
Aug 22, 2003 7:44 AM
I've done it with just a long bolt, a hammer, and a narrow ruler, but doing it that way also requires an extensive vocabulary.
if i use a threaded boltJS Haiku Shop
Aug 22, 2003 7:54 AM
(no juvenile humor here please)

if i use the 12" threaded rod i bought as a headset press, with 2 nuts set around a <1" washer at 15mm from the end of the bolt, then use a mallot to hammer the nut into the head tube (thus limiting the depth to 15mm by use of the washer), how difficult is it to get the nut in straight?

btw i have an extensive vocab. i was a touring musician and also have a 3-year old at home.
Keep the 3-year old out of earshot.Spoke Wrench
Aug 22, 2003 9:43 AM
I don't think that it's real easy to get a star nut in straight with a Park star nut setter. Anything less is going to be even harder.

It sounds to me like you're thinking about setting the star nut on top of the steerer tube and using a hand held rod to push it down. I think you'll have a hard time holding everything together while you hammer hard enough to get it started. Is your rod really 12" long?

The one time that I set one without the proper tool I screwed a longish bolt into the star nut. That held them both together. I got it started by hammering on the bolt but it took a lot of physical and verbal encouragement to get it tolerably straight. Setting the depth is actually pretty easy so long as you're willing to measure your progress 2 or 3 times until you get it right.
yes, i have a 12" rodJS Haiku Shop
Aug 22, 2003 10:39 AM
it was the shortest threaded 3/4" rod i could find at home depot. the cashiers were all envious. my 3 yo sat in the cart with the rod, washers & nuts affixed, and wailed away at anything within arm + 12" threaded rod range.

I considered threading a long bolt into the star nut and knocking it down in there with a hammer; in fact, the cane creek (this is a cc c2 headset) installation sheet says to do that with the headset bolt, if you don't have a setter. i was worred that screwing the bolt into the SN and whacking it a few times might strip the threads on either bolt or SN.

if it's not all that easy to get it in there straight with the park tool, that's really wasting $15, which could be used for other things like a really cool bottle cage or a sumo wrestler handlebar mojo.
My daughter has the Sumo wrestler.Spoke Wrench
Aug 22, 2003 2:43 PM
It's on the rear (pun intended) handlebar of their tandem. She honks the horn by squeezing his buns.

I used to buy those novelty horns from several different suppliers. At least one supplier didn't carry the sump wrestler. When I asked why, their rep said it was because the sumo was too politically incorrect and nobody would buy it. I told him that he was half right.
LOL, I want one!! Can I get it at Toys R Us? nmOffTheBack
Aug 25, 2003 3:42 AM
How about a crown race removerB2
Aug 22, 2003 4:49 PM
They want a lot more than $50 for a slide hammer with an attachment that can fit between the race and the crown.

I designed a simple one that I could ask a steel fabricator to fab for me as a favor, but if there's an easier, more "home made" version that works I won't have to call in the favor.

Bryan
Another job for the crummy screwdriver. (nm)Spoke Wrench
Aug 22, 2003 5:20 PM