|Need advice on Speedplay Frog Pedals||sam-g|
Aug 18, 2003 10:59 AM
|I just bought a new set of Speedplay Frog pedals and Sidi 4 Mega Dominator shoes. After about an hour of practicing entry and release, I still have problems with the entry, especially when in traffic where I can't look down. Release, thankfully has not been a problem. All my experience to date has been with M-515 SPD pedals where I have a sure feeling and audible click to confirm entry. What's the secret to adjusting and clicking in with the Frogs.
|I had the same problem.....||10kman|
Aug 18, 2003 11:30 AM
|I was so used to going in toe first, and just clicking down with the back of my foot, that the frogs never worked for me.
The only way you can really get them to work better for entry is to position your foot right over the pedal, and step down, but like you have probably noticed, that is hard to do if you are in traffic, on a trail, etc.
I never got the hang of it, and eventually sold the pedals. I don't want to have to think about clicking in, I fractured a tailbone once due to my foot not being in all the way (on spd's, not frogs), i learned my lesson. :)
|Try sliding your foot forward||B2|
Aug 18, 2003 12:06 PM
|From the Frog Instructions:
ENGAGING THE PEDALS
frog pedals engage by sliding rather than snapping together. The entry technique is simple to master and combined with a little practice, ensures that engagement can be performed instantly and effortlessly. The following procedure is the easiest method for
engagement of frog pedals.
Step One: Step straight down onto the pedal platform with the ball of your foot.
Step Two: By feel, (no need to look down) align the cleat over the pedal crown.
Step Three: Add body weight and nudge your foot forward while tilting the foot in a toe-down position. A slight pivoting motion of the ball of the foot will speed entry.
Using this technique, body weight will depress the latch and engage the cleat to the pedal. A slight pivoting motion of the ball of the foot while nudging forward eases engagement. There is no need to kick at or stomp on the pedals to engage them. It is easier to engage frog pedals by using this technique than by using force.
I've found that if you concentrate on sliding your foot forward it's pretty easy.
|Don't give up...||mdehner|
Aug 18, 2003 2:38 PM
|I have the same pedal/shoe combo, and after much practice, got the engagement/disengagement process to the point of being effortless. I suggest you stick with it, it will come.|
|Tighten the cleats||hnmalone|
Aug 19, 2003 8:51 AM
|Make sure the cleats are screwed down TIGHT. The engagement clasp on the cleats is extended out by pressing against the sole of the shoe; the tighter the cleats, the further it extends, and the better the purchase against the pedal.|
Aug 19, 2003 11:58 AM
|Used to be some shoes needed a coke can shim under the part of the Speedplay cleat that makes the click. Seems that some shoes let the detent push up into the sole too far.
|I have exact same combi. no probs.||wolfereeno|
Aug 19, 2003 8:28 PM
|My shoes are a year or two old so perhaps they're an older model from what you have. But they're dominator mega's, size 41.
I had to trim the treads a bit to get cleat where I wanted it (to trim the rubber I used a knife and heated it up). There's a small shim that came with the pedals that's under the cleat. And I took off the front traction pegs.
It was a little harder to get into at first than the other shoes I originally used the frogs with on due to the treads being chunkier than the other shoes. But once I got used to it they've been a dream. I now use them full time on my road bike as well as my mountain bike.
Perhaps your cleat needs to be rotated somehow? It took me a few tries to orient it and get it dialed in.
As for clicking in. It's kind of a forward motion and not a down one at all. I just sort of kick my foot forward. There really isn't the same kind of click you get with SPD (which I used to use) but there is a small one. Perhaps your bolt heads are too high and in the way and you're not getting all the way in? I had to file down one of my bolt heads.
Otherwise I'd suggest practice. Great pedals. I just love them.
|also, I have the newer frog cleats||wolfereeno|
Aug 20, 2003 9:37 AM
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