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Why '04 Dura Ace?(4 posts)

Why '04 Dura Ace?hawayyan1
Aug 14, 2003 10:47 AM
My bike (Kestrel Talon -w- Ksyrium's)is equipped with the 2003 Dura Ace, and it works awesome. For the vast majority of bike owners in my category, (LOVE riding, don't race) besides the extra gear, (I usually don't use all the ones I have now),is there any reason to even consider the '04 Dura Ace? I don't think mine is going to wear out any time soon.

I ride anywhere from 25 to 40 miles every weekday, and about 60-80 on weekends. I live in south eastern Virginia, and it is TOTALLY flat. The highest point for about a 30 miles radius is a park at 65 feet elevation. I have 53-39 chainrings, and a 12-23 cassette.

Thanks for any input
Has nothing at all to do with need...russw19
Aug 14, 2003 11:41 AM
You have a bike that you most likely don't NEED... do you really need a Kestrel Frame? Do you really need Ksyrium wheels? Do you really need Dura Ace? Not trying to be judgemental, but based on your post, I would think not. You would most likely benefit just the same from a steel framed 105 bike with machine built wheels... but is that what you ride? No. You made up your mind when you bought that bike that it would make you happy, right? Cool! All the more power to ya, if you are happy on your bike, you probably ride it more than if you weren't... so you justified spending much more money on a bike than you actually NEED...

How can you miss the parrallel between those of us on this board who would buy 2004 Dura-Ace, or 2004 Record for that matter? It has nothing to do with need, and everything to do with want. If 2004 Record or Dura-Ace is within my means to purchase, why shouldn't I get it if it will make me happy?

Any singular arguement against this is argueing against another's state of mind... it can not logically be done.


Has nothing at all to do with need...hawayyan1
Aug 14, 2003 12:01 PM
I'm just wondering if the craftsmanship or anything like that is any different? I by no means am questioning why anyone would want it, not at all. I bet it would be awesome. I am just wondering if except for the extra gear, would a rider of my caliber would notice any difference? For instance, would it shift any smoother?

I realize I am not even close to the caliber as most on this post, nor would I aspire to be, but I do love to ride my bike. For me, it is a way to keep fit, and enjoy the outdoors. Racing would be fun, but not my style. I just sometimes wonder if a rider like myself would notice any difference as compared to you guys, or if for me, it would just be icing on the cake, but not much substance.
Has nothing at all to do with need...russw19
Aug 14, 2003 12:57 PM
Don't get me wrong.. I wasn't bustin on you or anything, just being a bit philosophical about it all. From what I have heard (one of my good friends works at Shimano as a MTB mechanic on the NORBA scene)it won't so much be a drastic difference. More subtle. The cranks are stiffer and lighter, the shifting is said to be a bit more precise, but it's Shimano, their shifting is always precise (set up right of course..) and the group is said to have a lighter action to the shifters.

The thing is that both Shimano and Campy have got some really nice groups at the top level and I imagine it is hard to make them better... but Shimano is trying to lighten the group and refine the shifting feel slightly with the Dura-Ace 04 group. The funny thing about that was that last year they released the team issue stuff, which was all the rave to have... it's shifters had a heavier spring in there to make the shifting require more effort, but feel more precise... now with 04 D-A they are trying to sell the light action shifting to us... does this strike anyone else as odd?

Anyways, the first day I got out and rode on my new Record 10 group last spring, I was in fine winter form, but it was the fastest ride I have done to date this year... I couldn't really tell that much of a difference between it and my 9 speed Chorus or my Dura-Ace group, but I rode faster just becuase I was on the latest and greatest... Any rider would notice that if you were riding it the first time... but beyond that one ride, it feels like my other bikes, but I still know it's Record 10 everytime I go riding cuz other people always comment on it, and that makes me ride faster out of pride. So maybe you would tell a difference, even if it's subconscious.

When I get my 04 Dura-Ace group, I would happily invite any RBR's to come to my town and ride my bike. I don't mind, just don't make out with my girlfriend too.