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wheel porn: shameless plug for Odds and Endos(6 posts)

wheel porn: shameless plug for Odds and Endosweiwentg
Aug 8, 2003 7:50 AM
I just got a pair of wheels built by Mike Garcia at Odds and Endos. Ritchey WCS front rim (16h), OCR Pro rear rim (24h), about 480g each. American classic micro front (~68g) and ultralight cassette rear (~234g) hubs. Wheelsmith AE15 double-butted bladed spokes, everywhere save the driveside. Wheelsmith DB14 (I think) spokes driveside. alloy nipples everywhere save driveside. 632g front, 865g rear, 1497g the set. $400. very satisfied - botique wheel performance at handbuilt price. equipment very rarely makes a difference at the cat 4 level. once in a long while, though...
front rim closeupweiwentg
Aug 8, 2003 7:52 AM
rear wheelweiwentg
Aug 8, 2003 7:55 AM
if the wheels look dirty, it's because I drove to Altoona in the rain, raced there (the roads were wet some days), and drove back in some more rain.
rear hubweiwentg
Aug 8, 2003 7:57 AM
no issues with the hub. yes, there have been some scare stories (pawls breaking, one guy on MTBR had a screwed-up axle, etc) but nothing's happened to mine yet. Mike is pretty sure of the hubs.
amazing, something we agree on!collinsc
Aug 8, 2003 8:05 AM
Mr. Garcia builds a fine pair of wheels. He built me a pair of Aeroheads last year. I know youll enjoy them.
amazing, something we agree on!weiwentg
Aug 8, 2003 8:23 AM
> I know youll enjoy them.

I certainly did - I've put 4 races on them already. as I said, botique wheel performance, handbuilt price. I paid perhaps a hundred bucks more than a set of DA/OPs, instead of paying $250 more to get Eurus, Ksyriums, or twice the price to get Velomaxes (which I've yet to see on discount). get the prebuilt set from Ritchey and pay over $500, plus the hubs are heavier (so are the spokes, but the full bladed ones are arguably stronger). Mr Garcia argues that the 20h Ritchey WCS rear wheels are underbuilt for most people, and Ritchey did have some spoke problems with those.
the only thing that compares is carbon wheels. I had a 2001 set of Zipp 303s, which I sold. they didn't feel that fast, probably in part since I had Tufo tires on them; the rolling resistance was quite high. also, they're actually not all that aero; the drag numbers are not impressive. should I make it to cat 2 (by which time I am likely to have an actual job), I will ask MIke to get some 58mm Zipp rims or the deep Reynolds rims and build them up.

see this post for some intersting info:
http://forums13.consumerreview.com/crforum?13@@.efb2e85/4

Alex Rims A-Class: 200.5g............1724g
Ambrosio Diapason: 269.4g............1694g
Bontrager Race X-lite: 227.3g..............1550g
Bontrager Race X-lite Carbon: 184.6g.............1448g
Campagnolo Hyperon: 246.3g..............1255g
Campagnolo Neutron: 246.3g..............1691g
Citec 3000: 194.4g...............1841g
Corima Aero: 186.5g.............1481g
FIR Antara: 221.9g...............1646g
HED Tri-Spoke: 161.6g...............1956g
Lightweight 16/20: 192.2g............1261g
Mavic Cosmic Carbone SSC: 171.8g...........2062g
Mavic Ksyrium SL: 250.8g..............1614g
Shimano WH 7701-R: 201.4g...............1759g
Spinergy Xaero: 256.5g...................1759g
Thorius Shado Carbon: 170.3g.............1676g
Tune Dauerläufer: 257.6g...............1457g (these are 32 Sapim CX-ray spoked Open Pros with Tune hubs)
Zipp 303 Clincher: 201.0g...............1427g
Zipp 303 Tubular: 211.5g................1095g

PS, before anyone asks, I am not Mike Garcia. just a satisfied customer.