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My Campy 10 full Ti cassette-Junk or not??!!!!(15 posts)

My Campy 10 full Ti cassette-Junk or not??!!!!the bull
Aug 6, 2003 5:38 PM
For the last two weeks my chain has been skipping on acceration, mostly on hills.
I found the culprit to be the first high gear Ti cogg.
This is the one with 12 teeth(I have a 11-21).
So I replace the chain that is not worn out beyond specs.
The skipping is worse,And in other gears I assume the cassette is worn out.The shifting is fine and I know all my adjustments are perfect.
It happens mostly in the small gear up frt and the smaller gears in the back.This pisses me off because I like to attack on the crest of hills and as I am done climbing and shifting down the cassette one by one it starts popping.
Now for the shocker!!! The cassette has only 3000 miles on it!Anyone seen a problem like this?
re: My Campy 10 full Ti cassette-Junk or not??!!!!micha
Aug 6, 2003 6:31 PM
Ti cogs are all about saving weight at the expense of durability. After 3,000 miles of a steel chain chewing on Ti teeth, you need to expect substantial wear, especially on a 12 T cog. The cogs are not junk - they were designed to get someone on the podium and the expense be damned.
I guess 1cent per sprocket a mile is the price.the bull
Aug 6, 2003 6:40 PM
At 10 cents a mile for just the cassette wear thats more then the wear and tear I put on my car!
I think this is ridculous!
My Dura-ace ti/steel cassette lasted 15k or more!
I guess 1cent per sprocket a mile is the price.Juanmoretime
Aug 7, 2003 2:26 AM
Bull, thats why I use the ti/steel record cassette, just like the dura Ace. It wasn't the cost, I figured ti is OK for the larger cogs in the back but it has to really tear up the small ones. Call William, $129.99. I did go with a FSA Carbon Pro Team Issue. The weight is close to the Campy at a third of the cost. They work great and the Platinum Pro Ti bottom bracket is very smooth. Did you ever weigh your cranks to see what they really weighed?

Later.
Never weighed the cranks.the bull
Aug 7, 2003 3:28 AM
as far as the cassette goes I am goin all steel for 75 bucks.Then I take what good cogs I have and have a steel ti right?It should work.
Yep,Leroy
Aug 7, 2003 5:55 AM
I took a 13-23 ti/steel 9 speed, removed the 18 added a steel 26 w/ resin spacer and it works just fine. I have made a 12-23 the same way.
I guess 1cent per sprocket a mile is the price.divve
Aug 7, 2003 3:34 AM
The 04 carbon Record cranks will cost about 30% less than the current ones...said to be also less problem prone and more consistent in quality. Personally I'm rather hesitant in getting anything by FSA, considering their track record in MTB. I have a hard time believing their quality is any different for road components.
Change only the worn cogs? nmSpunout
Aug 7, 2003 4:54 AM
www.bigtwincycling.comweiwentg
Aug 7, 2003 5:14 AM
sells cogs by cycledynamics. $30 each. don't know how many of yours are worn.
the full ti cassette is for racing only, unless you're really rich. the larger cogs, which have more teeth the spread the load and get used less often, will last a heck of a lot longer. this is why your DA cassette lasted that long. I would certainly replace the smaller cogs with steel, and keep that cassette for races only.
Cassettes are the one thing that Shimano does clearly better.MR_GRUMPY
Aug 7, 2003 5:25 AM
A Ti Dura Ace cassette cost about the same as an all steel Campy cassette. You can pick up a "loose cog" 105 cassette for $28.
I've had the same problem with the Chorus steel cassettetarwheel
Aug 7, 2003 7:47 AM
I am fed up with the Campy 10 chains and cassettes. Aside from being ridiculously overpriced, they seem to wear out out way too quickly. I recently replaced a C-10 chain that was shifting OK at about 2500 miles to avoid having to replace the cassette for a while. After installing the new chain, it shifted worse than it did with the old one. So I thoroughly cleaned the old chain and reinstalled it, but now it's shifting crappy. I changed my Ultegra chain at the same time (at about 3000 miles) and it's shifting flawlessly. The C-10 chain/cassette is clearly the "weak link" in an otherwise fine product.
don't agree...C-40
Aug 8, 2003 7:36 AM
I've been riding 10 speed sinceit was first introduced. I get the same excellent life from the 10 speed components. I mesure virtually no stretch on the chain after 3000 miles. Never had a problem with the permalink or the new HD-L pin (which is an improvement).

I suspect that you need to revise your maintenance routine. If you ride in dirty or wet conditions, this is particulalry important.
yes, just recently and the solution...getoffmywheel
Aug 7, 2003 8:44 AM
go to Branford bike and order the replacement cogs only. This time I order Chorus ones for more longevity and shifts just as well. Who cares about the 30-40 grams, about 1/3rd the price of Record too. I think I spent $40.00.

3k miles seems on the short end though for the ti cog, so you will save even more $ by getting the chorus cogs.
re: My Campy 10 full Ti cassette-Junk or not??!!!!rogue_CT1
Aug 7, 2003 10:27 AM
I had the same problem this week. I replaced my chain and now it jumps and skip under load when I'm out of the saddle. It only seems to be the 19 and 21 which are riveted together. My cassette is the full Ti 12/25 with 3,000 miles on it. I guess 3K is the magic number for Record Ti. I'm going to get replacement cogs from Branford bike, they are $30 for steel and $54 for Ti. Luckily I still have a pretty new steel/Ti cassette that I can use in the mean time.
Wait!the bull
Aug 7, 2003 2:52 PM
You can get a steel cassette for 80 bucks!
The whole cassette.Then use the "good" gears off it.
I am going to just use the whole thing.
I am going to frame the old Ti cassette and put it on my wall because I spent way too much money on it to just toss it!
Then everytime I look at I can think of how we all do something stupid once and awhile.When my daughter grows up and asks me what it is I'll say,"That was your college education!"