|Stem angle survey...watcha runnin'?||The Flash|
Aug 3, 2003 7:00 PM
|Just to get an idea of what everyone is using for a stem length and angle....
Ritchey WCS 110mm -17 degree,
But I'm thinking of flipping it over to help my wrist tendinitis, but will that make me "un-racer" looking?
|minus 10 degrees on one, minus 17 on the other||AllUpHill|
Aug 3, 2003 7:37 PM
|Both 11 cm extensions. For the minus 10 degree, I have 2cm of spacers. For the minus 17 degree (it's a threadless) I have about 3cm of the shaft exposed. |
By way of advice for you, better to relieve your wrist tendinitis and still be able to ride, then to have your "racer-looking" bike collecting cobwebs cause your wrists can't take it.
|re: Stem angle survey...watcha runnin'?||Juanmoretime|
Aug 4, 2003 12:43 AM
|Another Ritchey WCS 110mm -17 degree and 30mm of spacers.|
|-17 but with an extra spacer. Call me a slave to fashion. NM||jtolleson|
Aug 4, 2003 10:55 AM
|0 deg. 110mm nm||Dropped|
Aug 4, 2003 11:06 AM
|you can call me fred||tarwheel|
Aug 4, 2003 12:12 PM
|I've got a Salsa SUL 12 cm x 105 (+30) on one bike, and a Profile H2O 11 cm X 90 (+17) on my other bike. Not for everyone, but it works for me. I developed serious hand numbness using a conventional -17 stem, which didn't go away until I was able to raise my handlebars to about 1" below saddle height. I didn't initially like the look of riser stems, but they seem normal to me now that I'm used to them. I am certainly more comfortable than I was before.|
|Another Fred checks in||geeker|
Aug 4, 2003 1:26 PM
|I use a 105 degree quill stem, not sure about length, somewhere between 11 and 12cm. It's on a cyclocross bike I bought used; I have long legs, short torso; smaller frame has comfortable top tube length but requires fredly stem to get bars 2" below saddle. I know I'm a fred, but don't care.|
|WCS 130mm -6 Deg. No spacers...............................nm||MR_GRUMPY|
Aug 4, 2003 12:31 PM
|100mm length on all||boneman|
Aug 4, 2003 2:05 PM
|Corrado steel custom with extra 10mm in headtube. Chorus headset with upper stack height of 12mm along with 5mm spacer.|
|100mm length on all||boneman|
Aug 4, 2003 2:08 PM
|1999 Vortex. King headset with upper stack height of 17mm and 10mm spacer. Like the Corrado, ITM Millenium stem with -10 degree rake.|
|100mm length on all||boneman|
Aug 4, 2003 2:12 PM
|2003 C40. Record headset with upper stack height of 12mm. ITM/Colnago Ergo stem at -17 degrees, 10mm spacer plus 5mm Ergo sleeve spacer.|
|-17deg 120mm on one, 0 deg 120 on another||DaveG|
Aug 4, 2003 4:04 PM
|Both bikes set up for a 3" drop from seat to top of bars|
|So here is my setup...opinions?||The Flash|
Aug 4, 2003 6:24 PM
|30mm of spacers below, 5mm above for any other adjustment. I'm think of going with the same stem in a 84/6 degree setup at the top to reduce the upward angle a bit...
|Here's the whole bike.....||The Flash|
Aug 4, 2003 6:26 PM
|for perspective....yes, I know the pedals don't match...I'm working on it....;-)|
Aug 4, 2003 7:56 PM
|Rare to see the bars higher than the saddle.
Remove all the spacers, use an 84 degree stem, rotate the bars down about 10-15 degrees and you'll have a normal racing setup.
|not joking....||The Flash|
Aug 5, 2003 4:00 AM
|bars are even with saddle, I'm not racing and it's comfortable. I'll be switching out the stem to try a different angle, but short of that, I'm good with it....
|I thought you wanted input?||jtolleson|
Aug 5, 2003 7:50 AM
|Your response to C40 sounds a bit defensive.
You may want to try less rise, given that there is a point at which being too upright impacts wattage (if you ever have a full Serotta fit they can help you find that sweet spot in terms of drop).
My other thought is how short your stem is, which in my view looks like it could make for twitchy steering. Not only would a lower and longer stem be easier on the eye (which isn't that relevant I know) but there are functional reasons why good fitters recommend a 10cm or longer stem.
Obviously, your bike may be too long in the tt for you to tolerate that, but you'd be surprised what getting slightly more aero can do not only for pedaling efficiency but even long term comfort.
|I thought you wanted input?||The Flash|
Aug 5, 2003 8:15 AM
|It wasn't meant to be defensive at all. I just want to make sure that I keep rideability more important than fashion. The stem is a 110mm, but due to the rise, felt a bit short with use last night, so a longer one may be better. I think a local shop has a Serotta fit kit bike, so I may invest money there before buying the next stem.
Getting the right fit is a bit trying as I have a long torso, and short upper arms. I need the TT to match my body length, but when I put the stem at zero rise it causes me to lean waaaaaay over to reach bars. This never bothered my on my tri-bike as you can rest on your skeletal system when in the aerobars, but on a road bike with the same handlebar height, I feel like I'm doing push ups through the whole ride. Do you think a Serotta fit would help in dealing with this?
|ITM Millenium, 120mm 80deg, 20mm spacers||Atombomber|
Aug 4, 2003 9:02 PM
|Still have about 10cm drop from saddle to bar tops.|
|re: Stem angle survey...watcha runnin'?||Mike Prince|
Aug 5, 2003 4:57 AM
|Steelman threadless stem 120mm/80 deg, King HS. 15mm of spacers. Fits me like a glove with Salsa Pro Road bars. Saddle to bar drop is about 13 cm. Probably too much for some, but works well for me.
|Thomson 110 +10, no spacers. 20cm drop, racer-style. nm||Spunout|
Aug 6, 2003 3:59 AM
|re: Stem angle survey...watcha runnin'?||mackgoo|
Aug 6, 2003 7:27 AM
|ritchey wcs 110mm, -17 rise- coolest looking stem setup.......||bicycle268|
Aug 6, 2003 11:21 AM
|when I got mine, I had intended to get the 83 degree but got the -17 degree by mistake. I gave it a try and never looked back. Obviously the degree and length depends on the rider but the stem can't be beat in terms of stiffness and finish (IMHO).
BTW- I like the look of a stem that's parallel to the top tube.
|Updated Setup and Photos!!!!!!||The Flash|
Aug 6, 2003 7:09 PM
|Thanks to all for their advice....
I hit up every cyclist and shop in the area, did the Fit Stik thing and read every article I could find, and think I have found a usable setup! Given the short inseam and arms with a looong torso, the setup pictured feels good and I will put a 100 miles on it this weekend to find out.
Your thoughts, as always, are greatly appreciated!
|Closeup of stem and shifters....||The Flash|
Aug 6, 2003 7:10 PM
|3T Zepp, 100mm, -10 degree (nm)||Fez|
Aug 8, 2003 11:46 AM