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HED Alps Vs. Mavic Cosmic Carbone(5 posts)

HED Alps Vs. Mavic Cosmic CarbonekenyonCycleist
Jul 5, 2003 11:17 AM
whichy one is faster and more durable...i dunno care abouts the weight diff. Also is there a wheel better than either?
Structural carbonfiltersweep
Jul 5, 2003 12:47 PM
The Alps have structural carbon- rather than a fairing like the Cosmic Carbones (which is aero, but non-structural). There are those that might argue that the Zipps are even better- but I'm guessing they would be the most fragile choice. The Zipps seem to be the number one choice for carbon rimmed wheels around here from what I've observed.
Structural carbonMycroft
Jul 6, 2003 3:19 PM
Hey Filtersweep, pl explain to an ignoramus (myself), what the significance of structural carbon is, so that we can appreciate whether this is a benefit or not.

I have been doing some research on Carbon aerowheels as well. Notice that the Alps (clincher) is a straight through spoke design that ends at the alu clincher rim rather than on the carbon bit. Also that some wheels (the HED Alps and older Campy Bora, ?Corimas?) are foam filled - supposedly for strength.

Then there is the question of some of the wheels touting use pre-preg carbon fibres (don't know what's the big deal about these!).

Some of the best and lightest wheels are ADA and Lightweights. ADA is prototyping a wheelset that is 800g for the set!! Even Lance forked out his own cash to buy these, rather than use the supplied Bontrager OCLV Carbons (horrible finish with clearly visible glued sections, but light) or Shimano wheels for the climbing stages. Caused quite a row, I believe!!

Will cost you a pretty penny for these!!
SEE MY POST ABOVE BEFORE BUYING!Packfill
Jul 7, 2003 2:17 PM
SEE MY POST ABOVE BEFORE BUYING!kenyonCycleist
Jul 7, 2003 10:33 PM
yeah i knows..i am getting a replacement pair and selling them