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Will Record 10 shifters work with DA10 derailer/gear ?(12 posts)

Will Record 10 shifters work with DA10 derailer/gear ?kai-ming
Jul 3, 2003 5:37 PM
I am having DA 9 on my Colnago, however, I like the simplicity and tidiness of Record shifters/levers. Just wonder if it works with DA derailer/gear. I understand DA10 components are not in the market yet.
re: Will Record 10 shifters work with DA10 derailer/gear ?russw19
Jul 3, 2003 6:56 PM
Not trying to be rude or a smart@$$, but if you understand that Dura-Ace 10 is not on the market yet, then you have to also know that nobody can give you an answer to that question.

Now, are you asking if Campy 10 and Shimano 10 are cross-compatible? Or if Campy 10 works with Dura-Ace 9 speed? Either way, if you have a bike that nice, why mix and match for less than perfect performance? Just get Record 10 if you like it. If the problem is money, buy a chorus rear derailleur instead. It's nearly the same as Record, minus the carbon pivot plate, and half the price.

But from your title line, it sounds like you are asking if Record shifters will work with the new Dura-Ace 10 speed derailleurs and cogs... nobody can answer that for you. But why try anyways.. if you like Campy shifters, get record parts... if you really want Dura-Ace 10, wait and see what they change on the levers. You haven't even seen them, so you can't compare them to Record 10 yet.

Jul 3, 2003 7:10 PM
I just spoke to my LBS, regarding a 10speed cassette to sit on a Shimano compatible freehub.

Peter (the LBS guy) basically told me that he has expereinced Mavic cassettes breaking, AM Classic cassettes ghost changing, and no comment on Wheel Manufacturer as they were too expensive and no one purchased them!

He suggested that I wait until 10sp Shimano is released, as the tech drawings he has seen suggests the cog widths and cog spacings are the same, and therefore should work... he did qualify his comment by saying that this is based on what he has seen on paper though.
about the cassettes...russw19
Jul 3, 2003 10:24 PM
The Mavic cassettes suck. They are not very well made.

The American Classic works fairly well. And when you factor in the price... they are a good deal and worth the money.

The Wheels are expensive. They have one based on an Ultegra cassette, but it's way more expensive than the comparable American Classic.

But the Dura-Ace based Wheels cassette is great. It's worth the money too when you figure that it's less weight and money than a full Record Cassette. It's more than a Dura-Ace, but less than Record, and lighter, and it shifts just fine. If you have a 9 speed Shimano wheel and need to run a Campy 10 drivetrain on that wheel, the top end Wheels cassette is great.

And that is speaking from experience of using all of the above mentioned cassettes personally.

Been riding the Mavics for 3 yearsRidearound
Jul 4, 2003 5:56 AM
and they have been flawless. Shift is the same as the original, durability is fine.
Been riding the Mavics for 3 yearsrussw19
Jul 4, 2003 5:08 PM
Cool, I guess my experience with them was not quite as favorable as yours. I wasn't pleased with them, but that's just me. Who knows, maybe I got a bad one....

There are potential issuesRidearound
Jul 7, 2003 7:24 AM
of compatibility and spacers etc etc. Mavic's web-site is excellent - it's worth a check that you have what you should have hooked up back there the way it should be - all it takes is some guy at the LBS to miss a spacer or something, and it'll cause a screw-up.

I do think that there manufacturing is probably not to blame though.
I have been riding Dura ace 10 with record 10 drivetrain.the bull
Jul 3, 2003 7:14 PM
No problems so far! In fact it shifts smoother! I like the feel of the new Dura-ace levers they are longer and have more leverage.The only problem I have is when I want to take my wheels off! I have to pull real hard cause there is not a lever to make the caliper open and there is not a switch on the lever to take slack out of the cable!So like I said pull real hard! Kinda like Im pulling your leg right now!:)
Thanks for your insight!kai-ming
Jul 4, 2003 4:31 AM
Another advantage of using Campy levers with DA caliper, I don't have to pull hard and wouldn't leave marks on my green axial pro tires.
re: Will Record 10 shifters work with DA10 derailer/gear ?kai-ming
Jul 3, 2003 9:10 PM
russew19, I like the concealed shift cable and separate shifters of Record10 which the new DA10 doesn't have + the serviceability of Record shifters. I may get away by just changing the shifters, cassettes/chain and up grade to 10 speeds. That sounds perfect doesn¡¦t it. I don¡¦t mind mixing brands as long as they works smoothly, people use Taiwanese frame, ITM stem, Easton bar, French paddle, Italian shoes, swiss spokes, Taiwanese nipples, French rims.
Why dont you admit it !the bull
Jul 4, 2003 3:15 AM
Your a campyphille! Just get the full group!Russ is right.
re: Will Record 10 shifters work with DA10 derailer/gear ?biggearlover
Jul 4, 2003 8:53 AM
Why not use Record carbon aero brake levers with DA down tube shifters, to work with your DA derailers and cassette?
You'll be up on all counts: you'll get the looks and ligth weight of the Record carbon levers and calipers, and you'll have the functionality and economy of the DA stuff. I guess Shimano will bring out 10 speed down tube shifters, or maybe the 9 speed will go to 10.
Whatever you do, don't use the hideous DA brake levers/shifters, that look like a sickening growth sprouting out of your otherwise beautiful bike!