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Arrggh! Cranks - creak creak creak. Also, rock INSIDE wheel?(4 posts)

Arrggh! Cranks - creak creak creak. Also, rock INSIDE wheel?Eug
Jun 15, 2003 5:19 PM
Creaking only when I pedal. Probably something to do with my latest Ultegra install. (Had longer 105s on it before.) I tried oiling the bolts for the rings and tightening the crank bolts, but to no avail. I didn't want to overtighten the crank bolts though - I don't have a torque wrench. How tight can I make them on a splined setup? (On my square tapers I was always afraid of overtightening them.)

Dunno how the rock got into the wheel. It wouldn't be inside the tire but it sounds like it's actually inside the wheel box. Maybe it's some shavings or something from the metal? Oh well, I guess it's time to remove the tire again... (Velocity Fusion rear wheel.)

Went out on a 40 km ride today. The wheel didn't bother me one bit, but the creak drove me nuts.
A number of possibilitesKerry
Jun 15, 2003 6:02 PM
It is fairly common to have clicking noises, but ticks and clicks are very hard to eliminate sometimes. What seems like it is tied to the pedals may be coming from the seat post, etc. Sometimes things like temperature and humidity can affect noises as well. To eliminate chain ring bolts as the problem, take them all out and grease the threads, the faces where they contact the CRs, and the CRs where they contact the crank spider arms. Clicks tied to your pedaling can come from the BB (grease all threads in contact with the frame and BB, and torque it to the recommended settings, which can be quite high), the pedals (grease the threads, get some wax etc. on the cleats, grease the bolts into your shoes, squirt some lube into the guts of the pedal machinery if possible), the chain (clean and lube), your seat post and saddle (grease the post, seat post bolts, saddle rails), your bars and stem (grease the stem, stem bolt at both ends, h'bar bolt, and h'bar where it goes through the stem), and your wheels (check for spoke tension, particularly on the rear non drive side, put a drop of lube where each pair of spokes cross, grease/tighten QRs, tighten cassette lock ring). Needless to say, you want to try these things in what seems like the most likely place the noise is coming from, but there are plenty of stories about "I was sure the noise was in the handlebars but it went away when I tightened up the spokes in the rear wheel," so keep trying different things until you have success.
re: Arrggh! Cranks - creak creak creak. Also, rock INSIDE wheel?winstonc
Jun 16, 2003 10:01 AM
I had the same problem after building up my bike last week. It was more of of a clicking sound than a creaking one, but it definitely happened only when I was pedaling.

At first I thought the bottom bracket wasn't threaded in tightly enough, but I tightened it pretty hard and it made no difference. It turned out to be a lack of grease -- I have a cartidge bottom bracket and I had too little grease on the surface where the cartidge meets the holding ring. I greased it up and the creak went away. Park has a page on these types of BBs if you're not familiar with the internals:

Park also has a table for torque recommendations:

I strongly doubt that the creak is in the cranks -- it's more likely a bottom bracket problem. Also, did you make sure to grease the BB spindle? You're supposed to do that with splined spindles.
check your cleat /shoe interface.noupi
Jun 22, 2003 4:57 PM
Even if really tight there is a bit of movement between the two
I have Sidi shoes and Bebop pedals.
Before every ride I spray a bit a silicone around the cleats and never had a *%$%% creaking noise since.