|best chain setup||Banky|
Jun 11, 2003 4:47 AM
|I am changing my front rings to some TA rings and the rear cassette to a 12-27 Shimano. I have D ace componentry and have always used a D Ace chains. On the TA site they only sell a Sram chain stating it is one of the best. I have also heard some good things about the Wipperman. Will my shifting improve or be compromised if I change from a Shimano chain. Also what is the hollow technology with Sram?
Your help and experiences are appreciated.
|re: best chain setup||KeeponTrekkin|
Jun 11, 2003 5:22 AM
|I think the functionality of these chains are indistinguishable to most of us mortals, although you are likely to get dissenting opinion at this forum.
The practicality of the SRAM powerlink can't be denied. You can break the chain with your fingers to clean it off the bike. A clean chain is a happy chain and a clean bike means a happy rider.
I use SRAM on both my bikes and am very happy.
|re: best chain setup||eddie m|
Jun 11, 2003 5:44 AM
|I like SRAM's. I don't care how quiet Shimano chains are or how well they shift, I wouldn't have one on my bike, I've seen too many fail, even ones that were professionally installed.|
|re: best chain setup||Banky|
Jun 11, 2003 9:16 AM
|do you have Shimano 9 speed|
|re: best chain setup||Galibier|
Jun 11, 2003 5:30 AM
|My bike is set up with Dura Ace. Recently, I replaced my Dura Ace chain with an SRAM PC-99 (not hollow pin). I also replaced the cassette at the same time. As far as I can tell, shifting is as good as it was when the DA chain was new, although possibly the SRAM chain is noisier. The powerlink is what sold me on the SRAM. I've never used a Wipperman.|
|re: best chain setup||Rusty Coggs|
Jun 11, 2003 5:49 AM
|Use a Sram gold power link on a Shimano 9 speed chain.|
Jun 11, 2003 6:46 AM
|I'm converting slowly across the board - both Campy and Shimano. It works well, I really like their master link and I'm tired of (both) the Shimano and Campy pins. Have not dropped the extra money on the stainless version, the nickel one is fine.|
Jun 11, 2003 9:20 AM
|shifting is good? any additional noise?|
|Shifting is great. No additional noise.||jw25|
Jun 11, 2003 11:18 AM
|I'm a former SRAM user converted to Wippermann. Mainly because of economics - I found a place blowing out the 9 speed nickel model for $5, and the 8 speeds for $4. I bought in bulk, but sadly this was 2 years ago, and my supply is dwindling. I do have 6 bikes up and running, though, and sold a few to friends.
I haven't noticed any differences in performance between the chains. I prefer the Wippermann Connex link over the SRAM, since the SRAM seems more sensitive to grit. The COnnex always opens for me, no matter if the chain's clean or not.
Wear is good, definitely comparable to SRAM. I haven't kep track of mileage, and given all the variables, it's almost meaningless.
Honestly, I'd go by price. I prefer an all-nickeled chain, just for looks, so whatever's less expensive, I suspect you'll be happy.
For 10 speed Campy, though, you're limited to Wippermann or Campy (or IRD, but I'm not sold on the teflon coating). There, I'd definitely go Wippermann. I've heard no reports of Connex links breaking, while the Campy link has been plagued. Heck, I'd probably go stainless for the 10, since the narrower chains seems like it'd wear faster. They aren't too spendy anymore, either. Do shop around - I use www.qbike.com a lot, and google's always good, too.
|with proper lube, silent. no problems shifting. <nm>||terry b|
Jun 11, 2003 2:13 PM
Jun 11, 2003 12:21 PM
|I've had poor luck with the Wipperman 10 nickel chain -- wore out two of them in much less mileage than Campy 10 chain. My second Wipperman chain was stretched about 1/2" longer after less than 1500 miles than my Campy chain was after more than 5000 miles. I like the Wipperman/Connex link, however, and continue to use one with my Campy 10 chain.|
|interesting - I'm gonna keep an eye on it. <nm>||terry b|
Jun 11, 2003 2:14 PM
Jun 11, 2003 7:24 AM
|Shimano chains have side plates that buldge outward which assists shifting. I think this is a patented feature of their chains. I've tried various Sram chains (Sachs previously), and found Shimano shifted better. Not a huge difference mind you, but noticable to me.
The newest version of the Dura Ace chain (7701?) has stronger side plate retention so brakeage should not be a problem - I've never broken a chain anyway.
Jun 11, 2003 9:23 AM
|I have never broken one either, the only advantage I am reading is that the other chains are easier to remove for cleaning and the sram may even be noisier.|
|Broke Shimano chains. All SRAM from here on out. nm||niteschaos|
Jun 11, 2003 9:06 PM
Jun 11, 2003 2:26 PM
|I just replaced my 9-speed D-A chain after 9500 miles. It had streched 1/16" over a 1 foot length. I replaced it with a new D-A chain. The old chain had never been off of the bike. I cleaned it once a week on the bike.|
|re: best chain setup||lt|
Jun 12, 2003 1:36 PM
|I have SRAM 99 chains on both my dura ace equiped bikes. They shift better than the DA chains and are quiet. I hate the break off pins required for the DA chain. Powerlinks work well and have never failed.|| |