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303s vs. 404s vs. Bontrager Carbons - Which to buy ??(4 posts)

303s vs. 404s vs. Bontrager Carbons - Which to buy ??InTheMiddle
Jun 3, 2003 8:35 AM
(Zipps would be the 2003 models.. hopefully the hubs really are much better than old ones ??)

Opinions anyone ??

I currently weigh 165-170... and found the normal Bontrager Race X-Lite just a too flimsy in the rear for my liking...(i guess i weighed about 180 then actually)

Anyone ridden any of these and can compare to the Bontrager, or to each other...

Obviously I'd like to stick to the lighter ones if possible...

I do road races (usually with hills) but also crits and the occasional time trial... so I'm looking for a good all around wheel.. stiff, strong, light...etc.. not asking too much is it ? (I also want to stay below the $1500 mark)

Neither...AM Classic CarbonsSwat Dawg
Jun 3, 2003 6:41 PM
I will admit first that I have not ridden their Carbons, but the classics use the same rim as the Zipps. The benefit of the AMC's is that they are cheaper, have a hub that is as good or better, and are customizable for $25.00 (And still cheaper). The choice of number of spokes mean you can tune the ride to your needs, and make them durable enough for your style. Just my $.02 Check out their website
recommend using 20/28 hole and CX-Ray spokesterzo rene
Jun 4, 2003 3:20 PM
The lower spoke counts are not that stiff laterally and the normal spokes they use suck. Also the spoke tension was not high enough and somewhat uneven on the carbon wheels I got from AC. I rebuilt with CX-ray and now they are great.
recommend using 20/28 hole and CX-Ray spokesrrjc5488
Jun 7, 2003 11:37 AM
I have the bontrager carbons, and they're light and very aero. good chioce of a wheel, but im sorry i have not ridden the zipps